Jamie Sadlowski blows away PGA Tour players, and will work with Peter Kostis

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Matt Bryda

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I agree with Jim,

+5 hdcp on tough golf courses

I was a +2 in my playing days good days and had NO chance and this was a mini tour

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Steve Greffen

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sideyard said:
I agree with Jim,

+5 hdcp on tough golf courses

I was a +2 in my playing days good days and had NO chance and this was a mini tour

Matt
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Yeah but did you hit it 400 yards? Lol

Of course I don't think that's everything but it is something. He does seem to have a decent control swing. A former senior long drive guy was at my facility and he could launch it vary distances and you would think he was a lock for low scores but when it came time to play he couldn't put it together.
 
Dariusz J.

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D, who in the world ever deemed golf to be about control? Sounds like it came from a guy who didn't have gas. :D

All seriousness aside, golf (not golf swing) is about score - PERIOD. If the Polish Pounder makes the tour it will be because of his score. If his score is because of his SS, that's golf. If his score is because of his control, that's golf. If his score is because of his putting, that's golf.

Distal parts be damned, how many strokes did it take? That's the only question in golf.
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Yes, what you said is true. People are stronger, taller and better athletes with the time flow. This is just how evolution works. We cannot do anything about it. E.g. tennis court dimensions remains the same and tall big serve whackers have a huge advantage over true artists - but, as said, we cannot do anything if we do not want to change the look of the court (e.g. enlarge the height of the net). Same in football and many many other sports
, however, there are chances for smaller and weaker guys left - Messi would not win many head duels but would screw those tall strong bulls into the ground and would score goals this way.
However, in golf, courses are getting easier and more pampered making the life of the tall strong whackers even easier. Today, if a player can only whack the ball 350 yards (practically, no matter where because rough on the Tour is laughable) and putt great - he's got fairly big chances to be a Tour star. IMO, this is not the way golf should go. It kills artism. IMHO.

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Matt Bryda

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Of course I don't think that's everything but it is something. He does seem to have a decent control swing.
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I agree, the distance thing will be a huge advantage.

I love the guys swing, he looks like he could dial it in for irons, but we will see.

I hope he makes it!

Matt
 
Steve Greffen

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sideyard said:
I agree, the distance thing will be a huge advantage.

I love the guys swing, he looks like he could dial it in for irons, but we will see.

I hope he makes it!

Matt
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Yeah hope he does well do, would be awesome for golf. The iron shots were what did my buddy in, would lay did over a simple approach shot for no reason. That and blast a driver 100 yards ob! Lol
 
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Jim Kobylinski said:
If that's true he needs to get MUCH better to have a chance.
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I remember Faldo saying if you can't go round a decent members' course (say 6600yds) in -4 on your worst day you had no chance on tour.

Having said that, my home course (a links) is 6603 yards and hold top amateur competitions most years. The average handicap is +2, and 3 rounds sub par will put you in the top ten every time. The pro course record (Oliver Wilson) is 66 (-5), admittedly off some 'special' tees which put another 200 yards on the course. Just shows what rock hard greens and 20mph winds do I guess.
 
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Bolt said:
Yeah but did you hit it 400 yards? Lol

Of course I don't think that's everything but it is something. He does seem to have a decent control swing. A former senior long drive guy was at my facility and he could launch it vary distances and you would think he was a lock for low scores but when it came time to play he couldn't put it together.
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By the above logic on shorter, normal, easier courses (IE non-tour) he should be way better. I'm not knocking him by any means, just being realistic.

IF he eventually makes it will be a valid accomplishment and give him the praise he deserves for doing it.
 
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macduffer said:
I remember Faldo saying if you can't go round a decent members' course (say 6600yds) in -4 on your worst day you had no chance on tour.
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I think that's a good assessment but would tweak that and say -4 on average. I put up a post a long time ago about what -1 each and every round on the PGA Tour would give you (not adjusting for conditions or difficulty of course) and the results are quite surprising.

EDIT: Found the thread and also another interesting one i put up:

How good is -1 Par? I mean really...

Tour prepped courses: How many shots would you DROP playing them?
 
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The guy has a better chance than most, cos he's proved he can produce the goods under pressure - even it was only a long drive. He's a performer, and that's one of the things you've got to be on tour, IMO.

This thing about handicaps and what you have to be as an amateur before you can consider playing on tour is a bit of a red herring - look at Poulter for example. I could tell you about a lot of guys I played with as a junior and amateur who would have wiped the floor with him while he was a young pro who didn't get any better/got worse while he continued to improve. Its about reaching and maintaining your POTENTIAL levels and not a lot of guys do this. I know one guy who won on the European Tour who was nowhere near as good as his peers as a junior and I played with a major winner when we were both assistant pros who was frankly pretty poor at the time. I remember thinking "this guy takes himself too seriously, he's got ideas way beyond his station"! Who's laughing now:(
 
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It doesn't seem unreasonable that if he wanted to get on the tour that he could get another 4 shots out of his short game with some additional coaching and practice. From what I have read he has played off scratch for a while without putting in the work required to play tour level short game.
 
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I think a plus 6 to plus 8 handicap is about right for a tour pro. Means on an average 6500 yd course they shoot 63-64. I justg played with a pga tour pro, and he said on his home course, he typically shoots low 60's, however, his average score last year on tour was just under 69, however.

I think I saw somewhere, that the year Tiger had the Tiger slam, that his handicap was around a plus 12 or plus 13.
 
billmckinneygolf

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He's a little better than scratch. He shot 63 fairly recently and can hit 6 iron 220 with great control. He flew it onto the green on the 18th at Olympic, btw.
Bobby Schaeffer, who works for Gaylord Sports is helping to manage his career.
 
birdie_man

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I really just hope they don't try to "restrict" "tighten" up his swing too much "for control." I can see it now.

"That stuff was ok for long drive but..."

I could be dead wrong. But that is just my general fear for a player like this.

Tell Bobby to give him the inside scoop Bill...!
 
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Dariusz J. said:
While I am looking with a good eye on Sadlowski because of his Polish roots, I think if he makes the Tour only because of his SS it would be an ultimate proof that the old essence of golf "control is the name of the game" loses its sense entirely nowadays.

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I hear he hits it pretty straight...esp for 400+...

I want to say that again...four h-u-n-d-r-e-d...

These long drive guys are nuts.

Good swing though yes?

For courses they just need strategic bunkering for True Risk And Reward.

Bunkering, hard greens...you will to stay clear of em, and will need an angle. (position)

Think Road Hole. Like Geoff Ogilvy said. Somewhat of an ancient Blueprint (/example) for golf, and Modern Golf too I think.

I think you just need to make em think strategically about their second shot...then they question whether to hit driver cause it's now an actual risk.

No long rough, like Brian says. Just easier for the long guys to power through it.
 
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