Jamie Sadlowski blows away PGA Tour players, and will work with Peter Kostis
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SteveT
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You don't have to be a great mind to be a LD competitor ... but you need chops to succeed on the pro tour.
That is a misconception likely held by a lot of people. In any high level competition, once you have the physical tools and technique to be competitive at that level, the mind becomes very important, often the difference between winning and losing.
Strategy, confidence, focus, and adherence to your plan are as important to success in LD as it is in golf.
That said, if you're thinking that it takes a great mind to make it or have success on tour, I know you know better than that. I'm sure you could come up with a couple examples in short order
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SteveT
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^^^ Bigwill ..... Yah, sure ... LD competition ... swing fast/hit hard ... on a 500 yard football field ... against a handful of equally dumb competitors ...LOL
Tour competition ... on an extended walking golf course ... over 4 days (plus practice rounds) with varying weather conditions ... competing against a hundred other established golfers.
Comparing LD swingers to Tour pros ... is like comparing gorillas to humans ...
Tour competition ... on an extended walking golf course ... over 4 days (plus practice rounds) with varying weather conditions ... competing against a hundred other established golfers.
Comparing LD swingers to Tour pros ... is like comparing gorillas to humans ...
^^^ Bigwill ..... Yah, sure ... LD competition ... swing fast/hit hard ... on a 500 yard football field ... against a handful of equally dumb competitors ...LOL
Tour competition ... on an extended walking golf course ... over 4 days (plus practice rounds) with varying weather conditions ... competing against a hundred other established golfers.
Comparing LD swingers to Tour pros ... is like comparing gorillas to humans ...
LOL.
Funny. Wrong, but funny
I stand by my post, Steve.
You're not one of those people who see an inverse relationship between size/strength/power and intelligence, are you?
Kevin Shields
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This really doesnt mean much. Its better than not doing it but ive known 15 year olds that have shot 62. I have a 61 in competition. The difference from shooting low in casual golf and making a living on the tour is galaxies apart.
Definitely wrong. Kaymer had done NONE/ZERO/ZILCH of all the stuff being claimed by some to be essential - junior, college, amateur, minitour etc. but he has strolled past all the hotshots from these categories. I know that Kaymer was a good golfer as a junior, nothing more than good. He payed on the EPD Tour, frankly a mickey-mouse tour for no-hopers. Then he started shooting low (59, 60, 61), stepped up to the Challege Tour and had immediate success, stepped up to the European Tour and had immediate success. Then he won the PGA. So he didn't spend decades honing his short game, and his short game is more than tour level. Just one example.
The right player with the right coaching can make it happen quicker. Whether Sadlowski can do it remains to be seen. But he's a "one off". So IMO the normal rules don't apply. The guys on tour are human, not super human. A collegue of mine played on the ET for several years, played with Tiger twice, Love III, Monty and some other big names and he said these guys have a short game to die for, no doubt about it. When he hit to 2" out the bunker they'd almost hole it etc. The chances that JS will make it are slim, very slim but I still think it'll be interesting to see if its possible for a guy to make it by using his length and learning the rest.
LOL.
Funny. Wrong, but funny
I stand by my post, Steve.
You're not one of those people who see an inverse relationship between size/strength/power and intelligence, are you?
My next door neighbor is a power lifting chess grand master!
Not sure if you really proved me wrong at all. I didn't say you had to have oodles of success in lower ranks order to play at the highest level. I just said that you can't practice your short game really hard for a few years and expect to have it at the same level as a tour player. Kaymer has worked on his short game for a LONG time, since he was a junior.
In fact, I think your story adds another wrinkle to it. There's a difference between having a good short game and knowing how to score. Decision-making and knowing the right shot to hit are just as (if not more) important than being able to hit it. And it's not something you can learn from anything other than experience (an area where Sadlowski is at an extreme disadvantage).
birdie_man
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Interesting thread. Good points.
Short game, puttin, distance ctrl, etc. etc. etc.
He'll do good on the par 5s and drive many par 4s...
Did LD and has played hockey at a high level, for what it's worth as far as skills mental/physical.....and everything that comes with competing at high levels.
It's a neat idea all this anyway...and he has money and thus time as well...and a Manzella Approved swing. (leave the base of it alone!, whoever is out there listening)
He's talented but yes it does take a lot. Wish him the best.
Anyone see him play live?
Short game, puttin, distance ctrl, etc. etc. etc.
He'll do good on the par 5s and drive many par 4s...
Did LD and has played hockey at a high level, for what it's worth as far as skills mental/physical.....and everything that comes with competing at high levels.
It's a neat idea all this anyway...and he has money and thus time as well...and a Manzella Approved swing. (leave the base of it alone!, whoever is out there listening)
He's talented but yes it does take a lot. Wish him the best.
Anyone see him play live?
Mike Thomas (sunmart)
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Horses for courses. He would pick and choose but on half of the tour couses I like his chances. The guy is oozing with talent and his length will overcome alot. 50-50 that he is on the PGA tour in 3 years and 75-25 he will be on the n Nationwide. Could be the most exciting player to come along since 18 year old Tiger. I am sure gonna be watching and the first Nationwide or Tour event he plays in will be a spectacle. Man, The PGA tour needs this guy.
Kevin Shields
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50-50?????? Wow.
birdie_man
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Was looking at this sequence:
[media]http://hickorygolfers.com/swings/macdonaldsmith/macsmithdrive.jpg[/media]
For what it's worth (and I'm not saying whether he'll PGA or not), a lot of similarities.
These olde-time golfers did it good. And/or many of those who learned naturally.
Just came to mind, while we're talking bout JS.
(though it is more swing mechanics discussion)
[media]http://hickorygolfers.com/swings/macdonaldsmith/macsmithdrive.jpg[/media]
For what it's worth (and I'm not saying whether he'll PGA or not), a lot of similarities.
These olde-time golfers did it good. And/or many of those who learned naturally.
Just came to mind, while we're talking bout JS.
(though it is more swing mechanics discussion)
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Jared Willerson
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Not really much of a chance he will get on Tour, lots of good mini tour players and young amateurs. He will really have to sacrifice the good life he has now to achieve that goal.
I just don't see him making that type of commitment. That is no knock on him if he really dedicated himself, he could possibly put himself in the position, but there are a lot of hungry, hungry guys out there.
I just don't see him making that type of commitment. That is no knock on him if he really dedicated himself, he could possibly put himself in the position, but there are a lot of hungry, hungry guys out there.
birdie_man
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I dunno man. A lot will be in reach for him.
I just said many Aaron. Truly I do not know how many.
I'll have to start observing the yardages more closely.
I just said many Aaron. Truly I do not know how many.
I'll have to start observing the yardages more closely.
self-mastery
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I wonder what his tour adjusted game is going to look like.
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