Jason "All" Day

[Dariusz J.]

PGA Tour Rules on "Slow Play" (at least as I remember them back when I played the Senior Tour in the 90's:

SP is defined as being both "Out of Position" and "Over Time". You must be both in order to be "put on the clock" so to speak.

Yes there is an overall time (broken down to each hole by dividing by 18 with adjustments for par 3 vs par 5). Overall time can vary from course to course depending upon geography (long walks from green to tee, etc.).

OP basically means that on a par 4, you must reach the tee before the group in front clears the green. Slightly different definitions for par 3 & par 5. You can be "OP" but if you are not OT, you are not subject to being put on the clock. Same if you are OT but still in position - no on the clock.

If you are "on the clock" you are given 30 seconds once it is "clearly" your turn to play. Applies to putts, chips, whatever. The first player to hit has an additional 10 seconds (40 total). Delays for rulings, spectator control, etc do not count. If you fall OP because of rulings, etc. you are given a certain # of holes to "catch up" to position.

Obviously, these rules are not strictly enforced.

Regarding someone like Furyk - as long as his group remains in position, he can take as much time as he wants to go through his putting routine.

This is provided as general info based upon what I remember from playing in Tour Events (both Senior & Regular). The current rules have most likely been modified so don't hold me to this being completely correct - but should give you the idea. Rules for events outside of PGA Tour (US Open, PGA Cham, Masters, etc) may vary.

Bruce

This is a true professional info all can learn from. Thanks. Bold lettered sentences highlighted by me.

Cheers

 

[Lindsey Newman]

I bet the last thing he is thinking is:-

"What would Kevin Shields do if he was playing this ball?"

There are reasons why he is there and you are here, Kevin.

This was a despicable thing to say. Obviously, Kevin was simply trying to spark conversation and it was no way a personal attack on Jason Day.
All Golf professionals started off wanting to be on tour (whether they admit it or not), so you just kicked everyone in the balls.

Critics, are very rarely, the peer of the professionals they critique and that is accepted in art as well as sport.

Lastly, Kevin is a Manzella instructor, who maybe if not probably, won more money this year playing tournament golf than you did at your profession.

Someone needs to stick up for the folks that make this site the incredible resource that it is.

 

[ZAP]

I would really like to see the tour do something about slow play. It would have to come from the players. Problem is I have no ideas on how the policy would be enforced. Anyone have any?

 

[Kevin Shields]

They could start buy using a stopwatch and actually penalizing a player

 

[ZAP]

They could start buy using a stopwatch and actually penalizing a player

Yes that is true but I would have to say that there are different time requirements to hit certain shots versus other ones.
How much time is allowed?
They could make TV more exciting by having a "shot clock" superimposed like they do the first down stripe in football.

 

[Matt Bryda]

Yes that is true but I would have to say that there are different time requirements to hit certain shots versus other ones.
How much time is allowed?
They could make TV more exciting by having a "shot clock" superimposed like they do the first down stripe in football.

Nah!

Then there would be more fake swing whiffs...

start the shot clock over!

 

[Shot Limit]

Delay of game, 100 yard penalty, replay second shot.

That should speed up play!

 

[BIGBALL]

Nah... you get 3-5 seconds to hit the shot, like a QB generally gets, at most, in football. If you don't get the shot off, the other guys in the group get to sack you and you lose a stroke! Full contact golf baby!

 

[mgranato]

All we need to do is look to God's game for the answer(s)...

12 min. per hole (3.6 hr rounds) with a 24 sec shot clock.

Be athletes.

 

[ej20]

None of these measures will work to speed up play.

I propose golf be more of a ballstrikers game.Hogan had a great idea for this.Make the hole 8 inches in diameter.Time spent on greens will be halved.

 

[JDMAC]

We sped up play at our place (private)... if you don't finish in 4h15m, you can't play in the first 2 hours of play the following week with longer bans on early play for each offense. Everyone was asked to sign a membership contract agreeing to this stipulation before being allowed to play this season. Different problem at public facilities that are taking cash under the table from the stacked tee times.