MANZELLA MATRX Downswing Club Powering...the future of our golf instruction

[Brian Manzella]

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Brian, I know that you have credited David Lee and Gravity Golf on at least one of your videos. Where would you put his approach on your matrix? I would have thought that he is a "no torque" guy, but as such, his approach would have to be less than 100%. Lee argues specifically that, if you try to add, or use, muscle power--either positive torque or negative torque--the swing will slow down. I gather he would be someone who would affirm "wallop it with your pivot." From your discussion of the various kinds of torgues, it seems to me that ou don't believe this is correct. Can you explain why? I think that I have been influenced so much by the "no torgue" people, Lee, de la Torre, etc., that I have a hard time seeing how hitting, or the use of positive torque, can add speed to the swing.

No way in heck (it's been proven mathematically), to hit ot your MAX, while not using THE MAX.

Get it?

 

[Kwagga]

Using "Positive Torque" in the Right Arm can yield lots of extra power.

The math says that if force is applied to the "hands" at the right moment you can pick up about 25%.

But the key is WHEN.

That time is when the club is VERTICAL for the last time on the downswing. Too late or too early adds NO extra power.

The other thing is, Positive Torque in the Right Arm can be done from different elbow locations, and with varying amounts of either NEGATIVE or POSITIVE Left Wrist Cock!

Timing...and applying the RIGHT AMMOUNT of right arm relative to the left arm pull of the pivot is KEY.

Brian.

Just wanted to make sure what you mean when saying the shaft is vertical for the last time. Is this therefore when the left arm is parralell to the ground.

Thanks.

 

[tongzilla]

Brian.

Just wanted to make sure what you mean when saying the shaft is vertical for the last time. Is this therefore when the left arm is parralell to the ground.

Thanks.

Only if there's a 90 degree angle between the left arm and clubshaft.
If you have more wristcock, then your left arm will have to be further down for the shaft to be vertical.

 

[watson08]

Using "Positive Torque" in the Right Arm can yield lots of extra power.

The math says that if force is applied to the "hands" at the right moment you can pick up about 25%.

But the key is WHEN.

That time is when the club is VERTICAL for the last time on the downswing. Too late or too early adds NO extra power.

The other thing is, Positive Torque in the Right Arm can be done from different elbow locations, and with varying amounts of either NEGATIVE or POSITIVE Left Wrist Cock!

Timing...and applying the RIGHT AMMOUNT of right arm relative to the left arm pull of the pivot is KEY.

Brian, I looked at your "gravity" video posted last weekend and couldn't help thinking of it when reading your post above. The point where the club is last vertical on the downswing is exactly the point where gravity stops being a force aiding retention of the bent right/flat left wrist and starts fighting the same. In retrospect, it is obvious, but I never thought of it. I was very pleased to learn this, but I've been wondering just how I might take advantage of this fact to enable better retention of the bent right wrist/flat left wrist through impact ever sense.

Might the answer be application of a measured positive torque at this unique point in the downswing? If so, then applying the right amount of positive right forearm torque becomes the game. Am I way off, or is this something to be pursued? Many thanks!!