Mike's latest video on the grip

[Dariusz J.]

Thanks. So max supination causes palmar flexion to follow and max pronation causes dorsiflexion to follow, right?

Not always, you cannot take it as a general rule in life. I was just referring to the situation of the lead wrist motion during a golf swing, while gripping the club with both hands and using its momentum.

Cheers

 

[Dariusz J.]

An addendum - one of my friends from other fora produced a great series of GIFs based on Hogan's photo sequences. Just found a good one to show the principle I talked about earlier:

Hogan swing sequences :: Hogan4.gif picture by drewspin - Photobucket

Cheers

 

[wulsy]

Thanks Dari.

 

[Dariusz J.]

Thanks Dari.

No probs. Any time @ service. Pay special attention how RD + DF becomes UD + PF in a blink of an eye while going from pronated to supinated position, but I think I did not need to mention it since it's so visible.
Think about the reverse action approaching top. What else one can need ?

Cheers

 

[footwedge]

An addendum - one of my friends from other fora produced a great series of GIFs based on Hogan's photo sequences. Just found a good one to show the principle I talked about earlier:

Hogan swing sequences :: Hogan4.gif picture by drewspin - Photobucket

Cheers

Perfect delivery, notice his right arm not fully extended allowing the power to get to the wrists thru his torso rotation, a thing of beauty. Perfect containment of the mass.

 

[magicmarker]

what implications would this have on a player who employs a cross-handed grip?

 

[footwedge]

what implications would this have on a player who employs a cross-handed grip?

I wish I could use a cross handed grip, but to late for me to switch, if that's your grip you have a big advantage in my opinion.

 

[Dariusz J.]

Perfect delivery, notice his right arm not fully extended allowing the power to get to the wrists thru his torso rotation, a thing of beauty. Perfect containment of the mass.

Not a word less, not a word more.

what implications would this have on a player who employs a cross-handed grip?

Some actions would be delayed, some happen earlier. Which may be an advantege to many, as Footwedge mentioned.

Cheers

 

[wulsy]

This supination => palmar flexion is only in the left arm, and is not coupled with a pronation dorsiflexion in the right arm/hand, right?

What is the right arm doing to promote the movement from dorsi to palmar of the right hand which is an essential part of the Manzella Release?

 

[Dariusz J.]

This supination => palmar flexion is only in the left arm, and is not coupled with a pronation dorsiflexion in the right arm/hand, right?

What is the right arm doing to promote the movement from dorsi to palmar of the right hand which is an essential part of the Manzella Release?

Yes. This is why biok-grip pays backs. Look at Hogan's rear palm - no need to move at all despite lead wrist changes not only from RD to UD but also from DF to PF. Beauty of biokinetics and post-secret Hogan's action.

As per your second question - it would be better if Brian or some of his pros answer. I can only guess that his CP concept is compatible more to push and slap-hinge release types than to crossover/early swivel ones. If yes, everything is all right.

Cheers

 

[footwedge]

This supination => palmar flexion is only in the left arm, and is not coupled with a pronation dorsiflexion in the right arm/hand, right?

What is the right arm doing to promote the movement from dorsi to palmar of the right hand which is an essential part of the Manzella Release?

Maybe "how is the right arm allowing the movement to happen? I see Dariusz already answered , never mind.