Not 100% Golfing Machine? (now with Manzella BLOG)

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jerry1967

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From my readings on this forum it seems to me that Brian is not a 100% golfing maching instructor. He seems to add some of his own teachings and ideas to the forum. Which I must say, if I am right, I really like his thinking and teaching. It has helped me very much.

If I am wrong please tell me.
 
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jonnygrouville

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I know I wouldn't be here if he was!

To me, that is part of the skill of a teacher - having the indepth knowledge, but translating it into terms or drills or feelings that students can understand.

There is also a lot to be said for being able and wanting to challenge what is accepted as fact elsewhere. They used to think the world was flat...
 
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I bet the situation can be described as that he knows the book 100% and is able to quote it 100% but then is also able to think/accept that science and evidence has superceded what Kelley had to work with.

For me all that doesn't matter too much, as I want the truth. It just seems to be part of the background.

I can see Kelley created certain models with limitations and applied certain incorrect reasoning to some of his models. Some of HK's information can get you close and some can get you way off track. I'd rather have the right stuff.
 
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spktho

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I sincerely hope Brian along with the other experts he has consulted with are compiling and organizing the information in his own practical golf swing manual with elements of all parts of the game included. I know Brian has said he is going to write a book, but I will challenge him by saying I will believe it when I see it--and be one of the first in line to read it.

I'm thinking more along the lines of a Golfing Textbook with chapters on each of the many principles of the golf swing.
 
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Brian Manzella

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spktho said:
I sincerely hope Brian along with the other experts he has consulted with are compiling and organizing the information in his own practical golf swing manual with elements of all parts of the game included. I know Brian has said he is going to write a book, but I will challenge him by saying I will believe it when I see it--and be one of the first in line to read it.

I'm thinking more along the lines of a Golfing Textbook with chapters on each of the many principles of the golf swing.
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Funny you should ask...

The first chapter is being written in a post, and will be made available, on this website, for free.

Really...:eek::cool:
 
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rogerdodger

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It is difficult to think of any top instructor that gives as much as Brian. What this site has provided free, for information purposes only, is incredible. Thanks, Brian!
 
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DOCW3

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Vegas

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You are such a tease.

I'll buy it AND stock it in the shop???

Vegas?? What's up.
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I am also interested. If it materializes, I will not make it but intend to encourage attendance of those in the business with the purchase of one and maybe two spots, assuming non-forum members are welcome. Also, there are some "names" in the area that could show if invited
 
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ZAP

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Looks like I might need to make some room in my golf library.
It is really funny but after my time on this site and watching the videos I finally feel like it is starting to sink in.
The book will be on my short list when it comes out.
 
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jerry1967 said:
From my readings on this forum it seems to me that Brian is not a 100% golfing maching instructor. He seems to add some of his own teachings and ideas to the forum. Which I must say, if I am right, I really like his thinking and teaching. It has helped me very much.

If I am wrong please tell me.
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You are right. But, what is 100% tgm?

I mean most of those guys:
-cant get the student to hit it better
-quote the book all day long and it is not relevant to the student or this puts them off the whole lesson
-teaches tgm as a method teaching tracing and pointing with a tripod to all, wether they need it or not
-is dogmatic about their golf knowledge and only teaches one pattern
-cant give a 'real world' golf lesson to Joe six pack!

Yes, they know the words in a book, but really is that teaching golf?

Brian, has drawn upon a variety of resources to further his instruction and grow as an instructor. This is an addition to a base derived from tgm and is not a book literalist.

So what ever you call whatever you teach, so long as it gets results and makes people better: keep doing it.
 
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Steve Khatib said:
I mean most of those guys:
-cant get the student to hit it better
-quote the book all day long and it is not relevant to the student or this puts them off the whole lesson
-teaches tgm as a method teaching tracing and pointing with a tripod to all, wether they need it or not
-is dogmatic about their golf knowledge and only teaches one pattern
-cant give a 'real world' golf lesson to Joe six pack!

Yes, they know the words in a book, but really is that teaching golf?
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I think that is a gross generalization and not my experience at all...in fact I was kind of put off that the TGM AI I was was not using more technical information....the lessons seemed all to general to me.
 
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Bonesy

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My beef

I got really lost in the book last year. The book is very "hands" oriented. The last thing a high HC needs is a book about "hands" and planes. Brian's site helped my focus on pivot first and my handicap came down as a result. It is too easy to lose the forest for the trees with the book.
 
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bax1865

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Don't go it alone!

Bonesy said:
I got really lost in the book last year. The book is very "hands" oriented. The last thing a high HC needs is a book about "hands" and planes. Brian's site helped my focus on pivot first and my handicap came down as a result. It is too easy to lose the forest for the trees with the book.
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Did you try to read it without the help of someone that has studied the book? If so that is why so many throw the book down after making an attempt to "read" it. It really isn't to be read but rather absorbed and with the help of an AI you will begin to see both the trees and the forest. Is it perfect? That is debatable for some and part of the enjoyment on forums like this. As far as the book being very "hands" oriented, I can see how that could be how you interpreted the information to be that way. It is an "education" for the hands, "information" for the brain and with time a "my" way to blend all that into a feel to play by.
 
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