Q. about TGM and HK

[dclaryjr]

quote:Originally posted by denny.

Wish we could see the club face. As yoda saids "throw a ball at the ground near the ball".

Practice keeping your shoulders back. You want the feel of ----down before around . Make divots to the right or straight .Read Brians "get a grip" article----Your face and back of left hand need to match better. Learn how #2 power accumulator works.

Thanks, Denny--appreciate the comments. As I said, this was a BEFORE shot. I've since adapted the much more neutral grip Brian advises in his articles, but I have to monitor it because my left hand has a tendency to creep into that stronger position. I also fight the upper body lunge but I feel like it's coming around. And I was really encouraged by my results this weekend.

So can you give me a head start on learnig how the #2 power accumulator works?

 

[denny.]

The #2 power accumulator is one of the least talked about(because of the taboo of the words uncocking)and least understood movements.
Look at V.J. Singh near the finish ---his wrist are still uncocked. #2 is a vertical action. While uncocking your left wrist Supinate the left wrist (catch rain drops)
Learn to over do it ----instead of an outside in open face scooping action you will have an inside out low draw.
EDUCATE THE HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[David Alford]

How can you expect anyone one to know what you are talking about?

 

[FL-John]

Made sense to me....all the terminology is in the book! If someone supinates to the extreme, their left wrist (for righty) will start to bow out towards the target and the palm of that same left hand will start to face the sky....thus, catch the rain! This is an extreme move, but it is training for the hands/wrists!

David, you have your ideas and others have theirs. A lot of people accept the terms first brought out in TGM and use them for consistency in some of the forums. I am not an AI nor a guru of the book, but I understood exactly what Denny said in his post!

FL-John

 

[drewitgolf]

In Denny's post put a comma after scoop. It may make more sense.

 

[EdZ]

fl-john - catch the rain drops refers to lead forearm rotation causing the lead palm to face up after impact, not specfic to preimpact over arching of the lead wrist (although this would tend to result in the proper feel, but only if the lead forearm rotation is there). The rotation is the key, but both are important feels to 'exaggerate'.

 

[dclaryjr]

quote:Originally posted by David Alford

How can you expect anyone one to know what you are talking about?

If someone gave me that reply on rec.sport.golf, I'd come back with a resounding WTF?! But in a forum populated by TGM enthusiast, and particulary in a thread entitled "TGM and HK" I have no problem with the answer. If I hadn't have left my copy of TGM at work, I would have looked it up and come back for clarification later.

 

[Redgoat]

quote:Redgoat,

This is my first post to you. Straightaway, let me say "Thank you!" for your wonderful contribution to this site and to those of us who are totally consumed by Golf Strokes That Work and how to 'make it happen' for ourselves.

Holenone,

Your welcome.

It is an interesting topic isn't it? Should you try to study the best players in the world to find the combinations that are actually working on the highest level, or should you dismiss them because they are human beings, not machines, and are always flawed.

I am not saying that one direction is more correct, just that when a player is standing in front of me wanting to take there game as far as possible, how should I attack? From the it has to be perfect perspective or it has to work.

As an example, there are players I work with that are much more effective slightly laid off, others that are more effective slightly across the line, both line up perfectly approaching the ball. If it works consistently, just do it.

This is not a criticism of TGM, in fact, learning the many variations was very enlightening for me. However, I think it is easy to become fixated on a specific combination as a teacher, ie. flat left wrist at the top, when it may not be the best solution for the student standing in front of you.

I guess my point is that what I learn constantly from tour players is that the compensations must be understood and managed, but are sometimes a neccessity for that particular player. While the swing may not be ideal in a labroratory setting, it is how it works under the gun that is critical to me.

Redgoat

 

[David Alford]

You can supinate the left wrist in a fashion that is different from a quick left wrist rollover. But instead of talking about catching raindrops, I would just say, roll the left hand/wrist (or forearm if that is what you mean) over so the palm faces upward.

 

[dclaryjr]

David,

You should really consider using the quote function built into this software. You have replies all over the place and it's not clear to whom are what you are responding. This isn't like a threaded newsreader in Usenet. Just a suggestion.

 

[holenone]

quote:Originally posted by Redgoat

quote:Redgoat,

This is my first post to you. Straightaway, let me say "Thank you!" for your wonderful contribution to this site and to those of us who are totally consumed by Golf Strokes That Work and how to 'make it happen' for ourselves.

Holenone,

Your welcome.

It is an interesting topic isn't it? Should you try to study the best players in the world to find the combinations that are actually working on the highest level, or should you dismiss them because they are human beings, not machines, and are always flawed.

I am not saying that one direction is more correct, just that when a player is standing in front of me wanting to take there game as far as possible, how should I attack? From the it has to be perfect perspective or it has to work.

As an example, there are players I work with that are much more effective slightly laid off, others that are more effective slightly across the line, both line up perfectly approaching the ball. If it works consistently, just do it.

This is not a criticism of TGM, in fact, learning the many variations was very enlightening for me. However, I think it is easy to become fixated on a specific combination as a teacher, ie. flat left wrist at the top, when it may not be the best solution for the student standing in front of you.

I guess my point is that what I learn constantly from tour players is that the compensations must be understood and managed, but are sometimes a neccessity for that particular player. While the swing may not be ideal in a labroratory setting, it is how it works under the gun that is critical to me.

Redgoat

We are in 100 per cent agreement. I can even hear Homer Kelley saying, "Kee-rect!"