Radial motion

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quote:Originally posted by mandrin


As with regard to your questions they are quite profound and I need time to nurture them a bit.
I'll tell you why you need more time to answer those questions ("So how would you improve current instructional methods given your knowledge about radial motion, etc?"). Because they relate to actually helping a golfer (i.e. hit the ball futher with more accuracy, and shoot lower scores) rather than just maths and mechanics. The hardest thing to do is to find something non-trivial that's based on science that can help people golf better.
 
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quote:Originally posted by mandrin

“Homer didn't come up with an "instructional method" and then put a bit of science in to back him up. It's the other way round.”
tongzilla,

That is interesting. Homer did hence some golf related scientific work before he worked on the various elements of the swing as put forward in TGM. I am interested. Can you refer me to it?
Nope, I wish I could though!
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quote:Originally posted by mandrin

You can’t refer to Homer’s golf related scientific work, simply because it does not exist and you are wishing he had done it.
False assumption: just because you and I have not seen his research must mean that they do not exist.
tongzilla, this is just between you and me, are you doing perhaps a bit of wishful thinking assuming that HK has done golf related scientific research?

Also how come I have that funny impression that you would love to be able to show evidence that HK had in effect had done golf related scientific research.

As a consequence there is a definite feeling that if Homer had done research that would be useful and significant, but done by anyone else it would be just a sheer waste of time.
 
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Also how come I have that funny impression that you would love to be able to show evidence that HK had in effect had done golf related scientific research.
Yes I would love to because it would be interesting...and?
I mean he could have written most of the book without doing any research (and even that took 28 years!) and hoped that everything would be consistent and no one would care. He could've done a bit of research late one night and thought "ahh forget it, it's too difficult, no one will find out, I'll just put some stuff about radial acceleration, pressure points, law of the flail, etc., make it sound scientific, and everyone will think it's based on science, and I can save a few brain cells and be known as the king of all golf boffins".
 

rundmc

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quote:Originally posted by mandrin

quote:Originally posted by rundmc

Are you gonna fix the sentence so we can continue the enlightenment process?
If an object is made to move along a curvilinear path such a golf swing there are changes in velocity and changes in the swing radius.

The change in the velocity is composed of a change in speed and a change in direction. Changing both components of velocity results in a curved path of motion.

If there is a change in velocity and swing radius means we have acceleration. In these cases, the acceleration vector is the sum of two parts.

One part, the tangential acceleration, acts along the direction of motion, parallel to the velocity, resulting in a change of speed.

The other part, the radial acceleration, acts perpendicular to the direction of motion, resulting in a change of direction.

OK. What has Mr. K said that is inconsistent with the above . . . with explanation please.

Drop-in Drop-out.
 
quote:Originally posted by rundmc

quote:Originally posted by mandrin

quote:Originally posted by rundmc

Are you gonna fix the sentence so we can continue the enlightenment process?
If an object is made to move along a curvilinear path such a golf swing there are changes in velocity and changes in the swing radius.

The change in the velocity is composed of a change in speed and a change in direction. Changing both components of velocity results in a curved path of motion.

If there is a change in velocity and swing radius means we have acceleration. In these cases, the acceleration vector is the sum of two parts.

One part, the tangential acceleration, acts along the direction of motion, parallel to the velocity, resulting in a change of speed.

The other part, the radial acceleration, acts perpendicular to the direction of motion, resulting in a change of direction.
OK. What has Mr. K said that is inconsistent with the above . . . with explanation please.

Drop-in Drop-out.
rundmc,

I get definitely the impression hat you are either dropping in or dropping out for very short/long periods of time.

I simply like to suggest that you take a tiny bit more time to re-read carefully the posts in this thread.

It is nice to ask all kind of explanations but it would be nice if I felt that you used your own coconut also a bit.

For a dork to get out of the dark all he has to do is to walk towards to light and not expecting to be carried all the way.:D
 

rundmc

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quote:Originally posted by mandrin

quote:Originally posted by rundmc

quote:Originally posted by mandrin

quote:Originally posted by rundmc

Are you gonna fix the sentence so we can continue the enlightenment process?
If an object is made to move along a curvilinear path such a golf swing there are changes in velocity and changes in the swing radius.

The change in the velocity is composed of a change in speed and a change in direction. Changing both components of velocity results in a curved path of motion.

If there is a change in velocity and swing radius means we have acceleration. In these cases, the acceleration vector is the sum of two parts.

One part, the tangential acceleration, acts along the direction of motion, parallel to the velocity, resulting in a change of speed.

The other part, the radial acceleration, acts perpendicular to the direction of motion, resulting in a change of direction.
OK. What has Mr. K said that is inconsistent with the above . . . with explanation please.

Drop-in Drop-out.
rundmc,

I get definitely the impression hat you are either dropping in or dropping out for very short/long periods of time.

I simply like to suggest that you take a tiny bit more time to re-read carefully the posts in this thread.

It is nice to ask all kind of explanations but it would be nice if I felt that you used your own coconut also a bit.

For a dork to get out of the dark all he has to do is to walk towards to light and not expecting to be carried all the way.:D

To make you happy I'll go back and re-read every post you have made in this here thread. But it seems to me that if you are the one to launch an assalt upon Mr. K that you would be able to point out where he was a "drop-out."

You asked everybody "what do you think Homer Kelley means to Acclerate the Clubhead Radially?" What do you think?

I posted every "radial" reference in the book. Each is in the context of Hitting, which is Pushing the Left Arm AND Club.

The alternative is to Pull the Clubshaft according to Mr. K.

How has he F'd this up?
 
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