Right arm pick up - Amen brother

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EdZ

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Grab your left thumb in your right hand/palm - align the thumb parallel to your target/plane line - and pull it UP PLANE with your right arm

quite similar to another drill I know of ;)
 
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Grab your left thumb in your right hand/palm - align the thumb parallel to your target/plane line - and pull it UP PLANE with your right arm

quite similar to another drill I know of ;)

That sounds similar to a drill used by Faldo and others except with a club. He talks about setting the wrists without moving them so the club is parallel to the plane line, which puts the right wrist bent back. Then he said you just take it to the top. Does this provide the same feel and technique as the RFP?
 

EdZ

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Depends on where you feel the pull. A key here is to feel a 'passive' left arm/hand/thumb get 'pulled' by the right. You could do the Faldo drill feeling the left side as 'in control', which would not give you the RFP feel.
 
Here are two of my posts after I came back from Yoda’s workshop last Sept that explains the taunt action on the left thumb and hand.
The url of one:


http://d4358519.s74.snitz.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1153&SearchTerms=thumb


Excerpt of the other:

Extensor action is pulling of the left arm by the right. We held a small elastic rubber exercise band in the left hand, near the thumb in a grip like fashion and pulled on the edge of it with our right thumb and forefinger. Very very simple. What happened was the right arm stretched on the left arm. Add to this pull an UP and BACK motion of the right arm, a folding of the right elbow and the left flat wrist set perfectly at top.
The shoulders turn with the extensor action. The shoulders do not move the arms or club. It is important that the right hand fold back to keep the right wrist bent. This forms the right hand flying wedge, it stays on plane.

Remember what Homer said: “The club starts up and back simultaneously and immediately. It doesn’t go down the line, it doesn’t wait any time, it comes right on up to whatever plane you are coming off.”
And if I can add – with a taunt pull from the right hand on the left arm.
 
quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

Here are two of my posts after I came back from Yoda’s workshop last Sept that explains the taunt action on the left thumb and hand.
The url of one:


http://d4358519.s74.snitz.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1153&SearchTerms=thumb


Excerpt of the other:

Extensor action is pulling of the left arm by the right. We held a small elastic rubber exercise band in the left hand, near the thumb in a grip like fashion and pulled on the edge of it with our right thumb and forefinger. Very very simple. What happened was the right arm stretched on the left arm. Add to this pull an UP and BACK motion of the right arm, a folding of the right elbow and the left flat wrist set perfectly at top.
The shoulders turn with the extensor action. The shoulders do not move the arms or club. It is important that the right hand fold back to keep the right wrist bent. This forms the right hand flying wedge, it stays on plane.

Remember what Homer said: “The club starts up and back simultaneously and immediately. It doesn’t go down the line, it doesn’t wait any time, it comes right on up to whatever plane you are coming off.”
And if I can add – with a taunt pull from the right hand on the left arm.

I couldn't get the link to work. Is that a problem with the link or could that be with my computer? Thanks for the info.
 

DDL

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quote:Originally posted by EdZ

Depends on where you feel the pull. A key here is to feel a 'passive' left arm/hand/thumb get 'pulled' by the right. You could do the Faldo drill feeling the left side as 'in control', which would not give you the RFP feel.

I understand extensor action on the backswing , fully compatible with the RFP. However, I have problems feeling this pull on the downswing. Unless I am supposed to maintain the pulling motion up plane by the right arm as the downswing is going on.

Seems like in order to maintain extensor action on the downswing, there needs to be two pulling motions in different directions: a pull downplane of the flying wedges representing throwout action and a pull up plane or below plane representing extensor action.

Should one feel that pull on the left thumb up plane as one is trying to swing downwards? Not sure how much extensor action or up plane pull is too much.
 

rundmc

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quote:Originally posted by DDL

quote:Originally posted by EdZ

Depends on where you feel the pull. A key here is to feel a 'passive' left arm/hand/thumb get 'pulled' by the right. You could do the Faldo drill feeling the left side as 'in control', which would not give you the RFP feel.

I understand extensor action on the backswing , fully compatible with the RFP. However, I have problems feeling this pull on the downswing. Unless I am supposed to maintain the pulling motion up plane by the right arm as the downswing is going on.


Seems like in order to maintain extensor action on the downswing, there needs to be two pulling motions in different directions: a pull downplane of the flying wedges representing throwout action and a pull up plane or below plane representing extensor action.

Should one feel that pull on the left thumb up plane as one is trying to swing downwards? Not sure how much extensor action or up plane pull is too much.

Ecox gave me a great image on extensor action. He says it's one of the most misunderstood concepts in the book. It's not a strong pull or a yank. It's just a little bit of pressure. He said it was kind of like the gentle stretch you would use to get toothpaste out of the tube. Just a little firm pressure.

Another thing I was just messing around with . . .

As you sit in your chair checking out the forum. Close your eyes and move your right hand up and down and side to side. Just focus on what you feel. What you'll notice is that it's not your hand that's moving. Your hand is BEING MOVED by your forearm through bending the elbow. Now keeping your eyes closed focus on your right forearm and elbow as you move your hand around. This will really give you a feeling for how your forearm and elbow move your hand.

Keep doing this with your eyes closed. Except now close your hand like a fist and establish your right wrist motionless in a BENT and LEVEL condition. Move your BENT and LEVEL fist around. This is what you have to feel. Your forearm will feel like a batton or one of those sticks that the cops beat people with.

This is just me . . . but in the first chapter, I think it's 1-L, HK says imagine the right arm as a piston and the hands as clamps. Just imagine if somebody wacked your right hand off at the wrist. You could still deliver some pretty strong blows with just your "nub."

At least to me, that's what the right forearm wedge is all about. Not swinging from the wrists, but freezing the right wrist LEVEL BENT. Get the club shaft and the forearm in the same plane. And use all that structure to bang the crap out of the plane line. I guess it would be like using the forearm as a battering ram in hitting and slinging it around in swinging.
 
I know this is a fairly old post...but please enlighten me...

...when you do the RFP, is the clubface supposed to be parallel to your spine? (ala The Walrus or Nick Price)
 
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