tallathlete
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I point the chin down to help me swing my shoulders on a steeper plane. The downward tilt of my neck is on purpose..........
Right Shoulder Down, Out, And Around.....
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Jim Kobylinski
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the less waistbend you have the more you have to tilt to hit the ball and vice versa. since i believe he swings too far right the more he stands up it really wouldn't help with trying to get him to swing more left.
by being bent over more it's a challenge because he doesn't have to tilt as much and would be easier to get him to swing left-er but yes as he progressed i'd probably have him stand a bit taller.
Richie3Jack
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Here's my line of thinking.
I'm 6'4" tall and suffer from the issue of my neck tilting downward except I don't do it on purpose. My misses are usually straight pushes. I play to a +1 and can't really get beyond that unless I can eliminate those occasional 9 GIR rounds where I can't make any putts because my birdie putts are from too long of a distance. And my misses are usually straight pushes as well.
I think the neck tilt gets the face too open at impact so your face tends to match your path and that causes the straight push.
Like I said, it's something I'm working on so I'm not certain it's correct, but I am certain that I don't see any reason to tilt the neck downward on purpose.
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tallathlete
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You very well could be correct. Thats why I am here...to learn. I appreciate the feedback. I am willing to work to get it right. One of the teachers on this forum has given me a drill and I will get on it tomorrow. I hope it cleans up my turn. I am confident it will.
Too much weight on left leg in the b.s. when you reach the top, (for the driver), and then more weight on left leg in the d.s. causes you not to be able to clear out the hips, thus the push out to the right.
When most of your weight pressure is on your lead leg it makes it hard to turn it out of the way. So basically your in your own way. If you look close you see squarish hips at impact. It looks like a knock down shot, with a driver. Great looking swing.
When most of your weight pressure is on your lead leg it makes it hard to turn it out of the way. So basically your in your own way. If you look close you see squarish hips at impact. It looks like a knock down shot, with a driver. Great looking swing.
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Kevin Shields
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I agree with greenfree as well. Cant swing left with all that weight there. I believe his clubface is dragged open by the force of his shoulders tugging some from the top. Id reconsider the "push draw" approach. Good swing though.
BTW, who told you you have too much down?
BTW, who told you you have too much down?
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softconsult
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Two thoughts.
1. If you have not been professionally fitted, then strongly suggest doing this. Don't know where you live, but if you can find a Trackman equipped fitter that's the ultimate, machine-wise. Irons for length, lie, and shaft model and flex. Driver fit is critical. The interchangeable head systems clearly show the differences in distance and ball flight tendencies left and right.
I recently did this again for Driver. The differences as shafts and head combos are swapped are more that I would have expected.
2. It can be helpful to see the swings of various Pro's of similar body type. They are all over the internet, but it's difficult to really see what they are doing. I bought C-Swing, swing analysis software, frankly, primarily for drawing lines. Haven't done that much, but what it does have is a library of swings from 25 or so Pro's. The beauty of the software is it's ability to display the video in Normal, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, and 1/64th speed.
It's under $200 bucks.
1. If you have not been professionally fitted, then strongly suggest doing this. Don't know where you live, but if you can find a Trackman equipped fitter that's the ultimate, machine-wise. Irons for length, lie, and shaft model and flex. Driver fit is critical. The interchangeable head systems clearly show the differences in distance and ball flight tendencies left and right.
I recently did this again for Driver. The differences as shafts and head combos are swapped are more that I would have expected.
2. It can be helpful to see the swings of various Pro's of similar body type. They are all over the internet, but it's difficult to really see what they are doing. I bought C-Swing, swing analysis software, frankly, primarily for drawing lines. Haven't done that much, but what it does have is a library of swings from 25 or so Pro's. The beauty of the software is it's ability to display the video in Normal, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, and 1/64th speed.
It's under $200 bucks.
gmbtempe
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This is an interesting post for me and not that its incorrect in anyway but it makes me think about my swing.
Matt Bryda
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Try and set up with a little more tilt to the right, less facing the ball and then let your right knee straighten a little going to the top of your backswing, ala Sam Sneed. To me it looks like your hips are moving towards the target before you get to the top of your backswing. It also looks like the right shoulder down move is a recovery move because you CAN do it, because of the hips backing up (reversing too soon) before you reach the top of your backswing.
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jenhaoyen
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Ohio State son!
Kevin Shields
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Steve Khatib
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Just find a way to get off of your left side- the tilt away is not 100% necessary.
Tall
Look at your video again, the face on one. Use something to block out your view of your upper body so you can only watch your lower body move. While watching, get a sense of where your weight is located. Take a look at the action of your left knee. To me it appears like your balance to be too much to the left, ahead, out front, or whatever way you want to call it. That is one reason your misses tend to be right. Like a baseball hitter that is late for a fastball." Foul Ball" to the right ! It also forces an "up and out" action. Take a club and place it along your belt line. Assume your posture and slowly practice your take away lower body pivot. Concentrate on the feel of transfering the "pressure" of your weight to to inside of your right foot, leg, hip. You can do this while still feeling "centered". The next thing I would be curious to find out is your swing path.
Look at your video again, the face on one. Use something to block out your view of your upper body so you can only watch your lower body move. While watching, get a sense of where your weight is located. Take a look at the action of your left knee. To me it appears like your balance to be too much to the left, ahead, out front, or whatever way you want to call it. That is one reason your misses tend to be right. Like a baseball hitter that is late for a fastball." Foul Ball" to the right ! It also forces an "up and out" action. Take a club and place it along your belt line. Assume your posture and slowly practice your take away lower body pivot. Concentrate on the feel of transfering the "pressure" of your weight to to inside of your right foot, leg, hip. You can do this while still feeling "centered". The next thing I would be curious to find out is your swing path.
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T.A.
Check out your left knee. In the backswing it goes straight out to the target line instead of moving behind the ball.
You have a ton of athleticism that covers it up a bit, but this is likely the reason behind staying left.
Instead, with the left knee moving behind the ball, you can get to the inside of your right foot thoughout the backswing and then, in your transition, get firmly back on your left foot.
Check out your left knee. In the backswing it goes straight out to the target line instead of moving behind the ball.
You have a ton of athleticism that covers it up a bit, but this is likely the reason behind staying left.
Instead, with the left knee moving behind the ball, you can get to the inside of your right foot thoughout the backswing and then, in your transition, get firmly back on your left foot.
tallathlete
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Today I swung more left....and I made a conscious effort to get my hips through the shot...way more open at impact. I think I made some great improvements..........
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_DgpjPkR1I[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_DgpjPkR1I[/media]
tallathlete
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I hit 5 or 6 drivers...and I didn't miss. I think I can get my hips even more open and move them even faster. Today is the first day I have ever even thought of hips or worked on improving their action.
tallathlete
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I wish Mr. Manzella would give his opinion...I am eager to hear his feedback on my motion.
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