My (very possibly flawed) reasoning is: more rotation = in-to-in. This allows me to track my hands to the inside enough after impact, as suggested by Lindsey. Less rotation = in-to-out. Results in underplane divots that point to the right.
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My (very possibly flawed) reasoning is: more rotation = in-to-in. This allows me to track my hands to the inside enough after impact, as suggested by Lindsey. Less rotation = in-to-out. Results in underplane divots that point to the right.
willimatic
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No worries about threadjack, it's all about learning and I am clearly in the learning process. I even hijacked my own thread in a way earlier.
Too what you said above Kevin, for myself I thought I needed more rotation, and truth be told, I may have just need to adjust the way my club approached the ball. And I think the tumble (more vertical hands coming down for me) for me help this. I saw the biggest improvements in ball flight I've ever seen for me.
Here is an older pic of me, and you can see how much I left arm moved horizontal and out away from me.
Too what you said above Kevin, for myself I thought I needed more rotation, and truth be told, I may have just need to adjust the way my club approached the ball. And I think the tumble (more vertical hands coming down for me) for me help this. I saw the biggest improvements in ball flight I've ever seen for me.
Here is an older pic of me, and you can see how much I left arm moved horizontal and out away from me.
Thanks willimatic! For people with extremely horizontal hand paths, shoving the hands down can work magic, no question about it. Below is a swing of mine from a year ago, just before I discovered the vertical hand path move. I could barely get the ball off the ground!
YouTube - 109_0279 Good ball, slight push.MOV
Eventually, however, I think the utility of the vertical path thought will reach its limits. I think that if you have a vertical hand path with a flawed pivot (like mine) one can easily run into underplane issues. Other experiences may differ, though.
YouTube - 109_0279 Good ball, slight push.MOV
Eventually, however, I think the utility of the vertical path thought will reach its limits. I think that if you have a vertical hand path with a flawed pivot (like mine) one can easily run into underplane issues. Other experiences may differ, though.
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Lifter,
The WHOLE purpose of a more vertical hand path is to help the shaft to steepen and swing the clubhead OUT to the ball. It appears you have no plans to change your grip, so you may as well go Azinger. Lots of ways to skin a cat.
The WHOLE purpose of a more vertical hand path is to help the shaft to steepen and swing the clubhead OUT to the ball. It appears you have no plans to change your grip, so you may as well go Azinger. Lots of ways to skin a cat.
OK, I think I'm finally beginning to grasp the message. DCgolf, Lindsey and Kevin, thanks for all of your thoughts. Strong grip results in a hip slide. Hopefully a weaker grip will eventually encourage hip rotation rather than slide.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but DCgolf, Lindsey and Kevin aren't suggesting the grip change to change your pivot. As I said earlier, I hear them suggesting the grip change so you can get the club working better. What I see in your swing and interpret from Lindsey's last post is if you tumble and release the club head with your current grip, you will hit it way left. I think your pivot is very serviceable as it is now.
spktho, if you're right that my current pivot is serviceable, that would be awesome. It would make this so much easier.
What I'm hearing from your post is that with my strong grip, I "hang on" and don't fully release the club, which can get me underplane. If I weaken my grip and don't fully release the club, then I'll hit flares to the right. What feels could I employ to fully release the club properly rather than "hang on" to it?
I think this would be perfect for you to work on the swivel with a neutral to slightly strong left hand grip and a weak right hand grip: (not really looking at the "cut off finish" part, more looking at the hand swivel)
Golf Magazine Top 100 Teacher Brian Manzella's Cut-Off Finish | Videos | Golf.com
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