Brian Manzella
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This thread is on hold pending two videos I will upload shortly...
Snapping the Kinetic Chain vs Straight Plane Line
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Brian Manzella
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On second thought....
I watched the videos, and I decided not to post them.
I was TOO ANGRY in them.
Listen, and this is for the last time...
The KINETIC CHAIN snaps in ALL effective swings.
Period.
In a very dynamic Sergio/Mike Finney swing, it sanps a bunch, in a Fred Funk—it still snaps.
There are NO OTHER "RELEASES."
Some of TGM's best—me included—have tried to "show" the 3D machine that there are.
There aren't.
The machine says, hitting and swinging are the same as far as the chain and stressing the shaft.
Hogan's pictures JeffMann posted are of a DRILL and a VIDEO of a drill, he swing was NOT THE SAME.
I don't care what Hogan said in his book or Bobby Clampett.
The Pivot's Kinetic Chain SNAPS!!!!
The pivot does N OT ride consatnt to the finish.
End of disscussion.
Now, lets figure out how best to teach and learn it.
Whew!
I watched the videos, and I decided not to post them.
I was TOO ANGRY in them.
Listen, and this is for the last time...
The KINETIC CHAIN snaps in ALL effective swings.
Period.
In a very dynamic Sergio/Mike Finney swing, it sanps a bunch, in a Fred Funk—it still snaps.
There are NO OTHER "RELEASES."
Some of TGM's best—me included—have tried to "show" the 3D machine that there are.
There aren't.
The machine says, hitting and swinging are the same as far as the chain and stressing the shaft.
Hogan's pictures JeffMann posted are of a DRILL and a VIDEO of a drill, he swing was NOT THE SAME.
I don't care what Hogan said in his book or Bobby Clampett.
The Pivot's Kinetic Chain SNAPS!!!!
The pivot does N OT ride consatnt to the finish.
End of disscussion.
Now, lets figure out how best to teach and learn it.
Whew!
speedracer68
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thanks for clearing it all up brian..I still would've liked to see the video no matter how mad you were..I'm sure it wouldve taught a lot of us to have a better swing reguardless of your disposition..Thanks a lot again brian.
birdie_man
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Hahahaha. I think he means business......
mandrin
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Brian,
I really like you saying so clearly that swinging and hitting are the same as seen through the eyes of a machine. One does not hear that too often. You are progressively developing your own ways.
I have since a long time thought that swinging and hitting are primarily a matter of feel. Just to satisfy my curiosity. In the manzella matrix is there a place for the triangle and its structural integrity in the down swing?
I really like you saying so clearly that swinging and hitting are the same as seen through the eyes of a machine. One does not hear that too often. You are progressively developing your own ways.
I have since a long time thought that swinging and hitting are primarily a matter of feel. Just to satisfy my curiosity. In the manzella matrix is there a place for the triangle and its structural integrity in the down swing?
Brian Manzella
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Mandrin.
I never stop and rarely sleep about the golf swing.
The backswing I am teching most right now, is a HUGE upgrade to the one I was teaching a year ago, and has found its place in the MANZELLA MATRIX.
By "triangle" and "structural integrity," do you mean "extensor action'??
golfbulldog
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Brian Manzella
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Ah....
Yup.
Brian - is there a role for "pay per view" x-rated golf video downloads...
Yup.
jeffy
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That's what I always thought after viewing a video by a self-adorned TGM guru demonstrating "swinging", then "hitting". The swings were identical.
mandrin
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Brian,
Yes indeed, and a bit more.
Lead arm extended to take out elastic play. Additionally, strong extensor action of trail arm, kept that way during the whole swing, including impact. Upper arms narrow and remaining ‘glued’ to chest. Forward press sets things into motion. Feeling of hands remaining low in back swing, and actually during whole swing, including impact zone. Compact efficient kinetic swing - very strong connection between arms and body. Minimum of variables. No loss in clubhead speed even with restricted backswing.
Lead side - swinger – pulling - frisbee throw.
Trail side - hitter - pushing – throwing action.
'Triangle' – switter - triangle uses both side simultaneously, but subdued to upper body action.
birdie_man
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"Drop then hit it" vs. "pull from the top."
I'm not sure if I am correct, but the more i learn the more I think swinging and hitting are different. The swing may look the same (and they may look the same in 3D machines and stills) but, I believe, the application of force at the wrist is different.
mjstrong
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Also, as different as the two swing "types" may be biomechanically, the perceived differences, or what the player is trying to do diferently, can be just as important.
Also, as different as the two swing "types" may be biomechanically, the perceived differences, or what the player is trying to do diferently, can be just as important.
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