SUPER SURVEY: One thing at a time....

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Brian Manzella

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OK.

I will take a half-day of votes on the following questions:

You go to a Public Driving Range—in a city where all types of golfers practice there—and walk to the far right side of the range.

You start videoing golfers from the front (or belly) view.

You keep videoing until you get 1000 different golfers. It will probably take you quite a few days to capture the thousand.

QUESTION #1:

How many of the 1000 golfers (what percentage %) will do BOTH of the following:

Have a RIGHT LEANING TORSO and a decent RIGHTWARD WEIGHT SHIFT.

Like these guys:

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Michael Finney

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my 25% could be high, but remember, they don't have to look like those three above - they just need to have the right torso lean & right weight shift - disregard the good arm positions of kevin, curtis, and jamie....
 
ZAP

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I would have to agree that the number will be in the 20-25 percent range.
Although there are two ranges here, the one range would have that number around 40% and the other range would be drastically lower. It is kind of unsafe to even go there because the caliber of golfers it attracts.
 
vjsinger

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Funny. This Fall I did an experiment to check out numerous things about public driving range golfers. Right leaning pivot, "centered pivot", and left leaning were some of the things I "researched". I filmed 100 Golfers of all shapes and sizes, it took me 2 weeks just to get 100 different people. Of the 100 golfers that I filmed 33 of them had right leaning pivots, with 12 of those 33 having a substantial rightward too big of a weight shift. Amateur golfers are confused, VERY CONFUSED and we need excellent teachers teaching better and covering a wider area spreading the word about what pivot works best for each individual. Another semi-interesting point of my filming was that there was only one person that had a "centered pivot", and that was my pivot. Also worth noting that I was the best ball striker I filmed. Just proving further, there are many different ways to strike a golf ball well.

33% is my vote
 
Steve Greffen

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Brian.

Where you are going to have problems is having both. The players that have a decent lower body shifts don't have rightward leaning torsos. Their torsos lean back left. (trying to keep head over ball and other reasons. Then others that lean right with torsos have crappy shifted lower halfs.

The question also dictates classifying decent. Is a shift to the right leg okay if they have rolled on their right?

If you say no (as I would) then I have to go real low like under 10%.

Great discussions today btw! This is exciting and an indication that you guys got a lot of work done together.

Thanks for all your hard work and dedication.

Steve
 
ggsjpc

ggsjpc

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It always comes down to definitions......

My first reply to the answer to this question was in the 90% range.

As I read the actual question and right torso and shift are defined by the pictures provided, my answer needs to change. On the range and not on the lesson tee, looking like those picks = 10%.

My answer is also biased by the people I see for lessons. I rarely see problems in this area from the good juniors and college players that I spend most of my time with.

Looking down the range and looking at my lesson tee is difficult to clear in my head.

My first answer, which I stand by, because it's more fun that way had a definition of virtually any backswing that had the neck behind the tailbone while the club is on the right side of the body.

Many times when they start to lift it, that relationship will change but I wasn't figuring that in. I just thought most people move right when the club goes right and I'll stick by that
 
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Brian Manzella

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John and Steve!!!!

All we need is WHAT PERCENTAGE leans right and DOESN'T BACK THE HIPS UP TO LEAN RIGHT, THEY HAVE SOME WEIGHT SHIFT.

After you guys vote, we move to the next question...
 
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