SUPER SURVEY: One thing at a time....

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ZAP

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Wow!

One guy says 90% the other says 5%.

No way it's 90%.

90% of all golfers, making a pivot like Ben Doyle, can't make a divot on the forward side of the ball???

???

90%

???

OK so maybe I read the question backwards? Your accent must have thrown me off.:cool:
 
OK.

I will take a half-day of votes on the following questions:

You go to a Public Driving Range—in a city where all types of golfers practice there—and walk to the far right side of the range.

You start videoing golfers from the front (or belly) view.

You keep videoing until you get 1000 different golfers. It will probably take you quite a few days to capture the thousand.

QUESTION #1:

How many of the 1000 golfers (what percentage %) will do BOTH of the following:

Have a RIGHT LEANING TORSO and a decent RIGHTWARD WEIGHT SHIFT.

Like these guys:


At the typical public range, it will vary from 10 to 20% depending upon the time of day.
 
Of 100 golfers at the range I go to, one might be able to make a divot in front of the ball (probably 10% of the 10% that can shape up that backswing), but there seems to be some pretty funky teaching going on in Asia.

I'd be interested to know why the people that are making a good pivot can't commit to making a divot in front of that line and I am hoping this is where this discussion is taking us.
 
Well using myself as an example, I get the right leaning torso and weightshift, but I don't always get the low-point correct. I imagine there are a lot of players like me. I'd say 60%.
 
QUESTION #2

Of the golfers with rightward leaning torsos and some rightward weight shift on the backswing, what percentage of them CAN'T MAKE A DIVOT IN FRONT OF THE BALL, and their LOW POINT IS TOO FAR BACK?

70% cannot consistently make a divot in front of the ball..

BTW, if this is Jeopardy, do I get a car or something for the right answer? :D
 

greenfree

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At least 50% if not more. Almost anyone can get under the ball off a tee, or fluffy lie or mat. Then comes a tight lie... oh, oh, can't get under it , grounds in the way.
 
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Brian Manzella

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And now....

Ok....

The votes for question #2 are in, here is what he have come up with from the survey:

30% of golfers nationwide, lean their torsos to the right at the top of the swing and have some rightward weight shift as well.

and...

60% of that group of right leaning right shifters, nationwide, have contact problems, can't make a divot in front of the ball—can't hit the line—have a low point too far back.

That gives us this numbers with a little simple math:


18% of of golfers nationwide who are right leaning right shifters, have contact problems, can't make a divot in front of the ball—can't hit the line—have a low point too far back.

Personally, I think that number is very high, but math is math.

Next set of questions:

QUESTION #3
What percentage of golfers nationwide
(random golfers at a busy range, whatever you want to sample, just make sure it is a cross-section of every level, age, and gender of golfer in the USA—heck, or the world) have left leaning backswings, and make a motion that 10 years ago would have been called a reverse pivot??

Like these three golfers below:
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Steve Khatib

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Question #1 2.5%

Question #2 90 %

The other 7.5 have no lean no pivot all arms and over acceleration.


Golfers are much worse than anyone can possibly imagine(I dont mean ability, I mean what they actually do, or are trying to do) and I think we give them too much credit!
 
Ok....

The votes for question #2 are in, here is what he have come up with from the survey:

30% of golfers nationwide, lean their torsos to the right at the top of the swing and have some rightward weight shift as well.

and...

60% of that group of right leaning right shifters, nationwide, have contact problems, can't make a divot in front of the ball—can't hit the line—have a low point too far back.

That gives us this numbers with a little simple math:


18% of of golfers nationwide who are right leaning right shifters, have contact problems, can't make a divot in front of the ball—can't hit the line—have a low point too far back.

Personally, I think that number is very high, but math is math.

Next set of questions:

QUESTION #3
What percentage of golfers nationwide
(random golfers at a busy range, whatever you want to sample, just make sure it is a cross-section of every level, age, and gender of golfer in the USA—heck, or the world) have left leaning backswings, and make a motion that 10 years ago would have been called a reverse pivot??

Like these three golfers below:
photonumber2junk.jpg

I don't know the percentages but those backswings are the scariest thing I've seen since Javier Bardem in "No Country for Old Men."
 
Ok....

The votes for question #2 are in, here is what he have come up with from the survey:


Next set of questions:

QUESTION #3
What percentage of golfers nationwide
(random golfers at a busy range, whatever you want to sample, just make sure it is a cross-section of every level, age, and gender of golfer in the USA—heck, or the world) have left leaning backswings, and make a motion that 10 years ago would have been called a reverse pivot??

70%
 
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