I read somewhere that it's a teaching Pro from Slidell, LA that has been working with Foley and Tiger with TM
tiger and trackman interview....
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I read somewhere that it's a teaching Pro from Slidell, LA that has been working with Foley and Tiger with TM
What about the Perkins pancake girl? I'm guessing yes.
Michael Finney
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sean foley has leaned on james leitz for trackman interpretation.......James has leaned on Brian and Brian to a certain degree has leaned on James....
there was a point in time last year where foley looked like he was going to lean on iteachgolf, but he settled in the end on james leitz.....who interestingly enough was indirectly dragged toward the golfing machine by brian and has been since indirectly dragged away from the golfing machine....
and so it goes
there was a point in time last year where foley looked like he was going to lean on iteachgolf, but he settled in the end on james leitz.....who interestingly enough was indirectly dragged toward the golfing machine by brian and has been since indirectly dragged away from the golfing machine....
and so it goes
I don't know if this is supposed to be mentioned, but you've kind of opened the door a little. But, during a golf lesson I had last year, I seem to remember a certain Cajun mentioning a potential meeting to give a nameless instructor some "insight" into what Trackman numbers really mean and how to use them. Not sure if it ever happened or not. So, maybe some students learn ALONG WITH their instructors, and that might explain some of the delay??
Michael Finney
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nope, absolutely no tiger connection to brian.....but regardless, foley, leitz, carraher, and many, many others owe brian a great deal for understanding the practical application of jorgensen-dplane/tuxen-trackman....
there are a lot of people who say they understood the dplane and trackman readings after having it explained to them.....brian was the first to get there in my estimation....he was asking paul wood at the golf show 4 years ago if they had to aim pingman left to hit straight shots with irons.....now everyone can rush at me and say "so and so" had this figured out in 1911, 1930, 1952, 1982, 1990, 2000, and 2004.....i say BULLCRAP....they're spinning and creating their own revisionist history to make themselves feel better or make their system feel better....
thanks brian for pulling the dplane out of the garbage can....also thanks to fredrik tuxen for being smart enough to, on his own, verify and measure the dplane with his invention....and on a side note for the critics who want to make fun of the calculated face angle - i dare you to find better cameras than PING has......and they have VERIFIED trackman's face angle accuarcy 9 ways to sunday.....if you don't think the fact that Ping owns over 100 Trackmen is validation enough, you have a serious problem with your mental health or you are just out to napalm the radar launch monitor industry because it doesn't serve your purpose....i'm voting mental health
there are a lot of people who say they understood the dplane and trackman readings after having it explained to them.....brian was the first to get there in my estimation....he was asking paul wood at the golf show 4 years ago if they had to aim pingman left to hit straight shots with irons.....now everyone can rush at me and say "so and so" had this figured out in 1911, 1930, 1952, 1982, 1990, 2000, and 2004.....i say BULLCRAP....they're spinning and creating their own revisionist history to make themselves feel better or make their system feel better....
thanks brian for pulling the dplane out of the garbage can....also thanks to fredrik tuxen for being smart enough to, on his own, verify and measure the dplane with his invention....and on a side note for the critics who want to make fun of the calculated face angle - i dare you to find better cameras than PING has......and they have VERIFIED trackman's face angle accuarcy 9 ways to sunday.....if you don't think the fact that Ping owns over 100 Trackmen is validation enough, you have a serious problem with your mental health or you are just out to napalm the radar launch monitor industry because it doesn't serve your purpose....i'm voting mental health
I hope that I, and everyone else on the site, never have problems with mental health. I've seen some folks through some charity work I've done who have, and always thought: there but for the grace of God go I. I can no longer make jokes about it, sorry.
Getting back to the point: the stench remains though that Tracky is being used in a kind of "self fulfilling prophecy" mode, ie the ball flight TELLS Tracky how the face angle was, not the other way as first presumed by many. That's a FACT, unless Tuxi tells us different...
Getting back to the point: the stench remains though that Tracky is being used in a kind of "self fulfilling prophecy" mode, ie the ball flight TELLS Tracky how the face angle was, not the other way as first presumed by many. That's a FACT, unless Tuxi tells us different...
Kevin Shields
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This is pretty standard. What about it don't you agree with?
Brian Manzella
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Basically it went like this....
Sean Foley wanted to go to Anti-Summit I but couldn't make it, so he watched the video instead.
I asked him if he owned a TrackMan, he said no. I told him he should buy one immediately.
We were going to get together, but couldn't find the right time. He was also talking to James Leitz and I think we sold him on the little orange guy.
Me and David had dinner with Sean down at Tampa, and we had a few laughs. I had some guesses about how Tiger got to the point where he was popping-up 3-woods, and they were mostly confirmed.
Sean told me about some Haney tweets, and I told Sean to tell Hank that "His boy Manzella watched the 'Haney Project' and Haney is disqualified from commenting on teacher success and failure."
Foley is a good guy.
He has used James a lot for 3D and TrackMan interpretations, apart from and with Tiger.
That's the facts.
I am sure Sean watched my essential D-Plane video. But then again, hundreds of golf pros tell me they have. A few tour players have as well, including Robert Rock who called me for a phone lesson of sorts on hitting up on a driver, which helped enough for him to win an event on the Euro Tour, which he thanked me for the help on.
Oh yeah, David Toms watched the whole thing as well—on his own, and some Italian guy taught him 80 places up the World Rankings this year, using TrackMan, the D-Plnae and Project 1.68.
My guess is the internet critics will have no problem giving James the credit he deserves and keep ignoring what I did this year.
Just a guess....
Sean Foley wanted to go to Anti-Summit I but couldn't make it, so he watched the video instead.
I asked him if he owned a TrackMan, he said no. I told him he should buy one immediately.
We were going to get together, but couldn't find the right time. He was also talking to James Leitz and I think we sold him on the little orange guy.
Me and David had dinner with Sean down at Tampa, and we had a few laughs. I had some guesses about how Tiger got to the point where he was popping-up 3-woods, and they were mostly confirmed.
Sean told me about some Haney tweets, and I told Sean to tell Hank that "His boy Manzella watched the 'Haney Project' and Haney is disqualified from commenting on teacher success and failure."
Foley is a good guy.
He has used James a lot for 3D and TrackMan interpretations, apart from and with Tiger.
That's the facts.
I am sure Sean watched my essential D-Plane video. But then again, hundreds of golf pros tell me they have. A few tour players have as well, including Robert Rock who called me for a phone lesson of sorts on hitting up on a driver, which helped enough for him to win an event on the Euro Tour, which he thanked me for the help on.
Oh yeah, David Toms watched the whole thing as well—on his own, and some Italian guy taught him 80 places up the World Rankings this year, using TrackMan, the D-Plnae and Project 1.68.
My guess is the internet critics will have no problem giving James the credit he deserves and keep ignoring what I did this year.
Just a guess....
@Kevin
Hitting down = path more right. Hitting up = path more left. Fade = face slightly open to path> Draw = face slightly closed to path.
So the more you hit down the more your face must be open to your "alignment/swing direction" in order to hit a slight fade that even resembles something that starts slightly left of the target-line in order to fade back to the target. At some point, when you hit down on it, it becomes difficult to keep the face open to the rightwards path and the relationship between path and face become such that it is less likely that the face is actually open to path. And so the shape of the shot become unpredictable. So hitting more down, or more up for that matter, is a BUM DEAL. Hence why the tour pros (as far as I know) shy away from hitting up big time with the driver.
Make sense, Tiger?
Hitting down = path more right. Hitting up = path more left. Fade = face slightly open to path> Draw = face slightly closed to path.
So the more you hit down the more your face must be open to your "alignment/swing direction" in order to hit a slight fade that even resembles something that starts slightly left of the target-line in order to fade back to the target. At some point, when you hit down on it, it becomes difficult to keep the face open to the rightwards path and the relationship between path and face become such that it is less likely that the face is actually open to path. And so the shape of the shot become unpredictable. So hitting more down, or more up for that matter, is a BUM DEAL. Hence why the tour pros (as far as I know) shy away from hitting up big time with the driver.
Make sense, Tiger?
Michael Finney
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NOT THE OTHER WAY AS FIRST PRESUMED BY MANY
PRESUMED
wulsy, the trackman parameters which are measured and calculated have been on the trackman website and in the newsletters from day 1 - at no time did they ever try to pull the wool over anyone's eyes about what their monitor could measure.....now this revelation is sweeping through tens and tens of people on another forum....they are astonished that trackman doesn't directly measure the face....ping has verified its accuracy and that is good enough for me....and evidently good enough for paul wood....what people PRESUMED on other golf forums is not the concern - people presumed the ball started on the path for 100 years - does that make trackman bad?
going to dinner one night, i was lucky enough to listen in on a great conversation between tuxen and wood about ping's future interest in trackman products and developments - let's just say that there is genuine respect between the two men and their companies as they move forward...
Brian Manzella
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Straight ball off of the ground = face open to the plane.
It is going more upward big time.
Remember the Robert Rock story??
Brian Manzella
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There will always be doubters and ignore-ers.
People pick apart everything I do and are dead silent on the 80 place improvement.
Steve Greffen
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Sounds like a set up question, but low fade. Good drill for major in to out high draw sweepers (Brian has had me do that drill for just that purpose). If you try to swing in to out with that ball on the ground, you won't get the ball in the air.
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