westy
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homer HK thought that. heard him say it on the tommasello tapes. one swing pattern. kind of like the idea, but also like repertoire.
Tiger is becoming...
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westy
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today.
Does anyone know how many drivers Tiger has hit in the three rounds so far?I'll bet it's not many.He's hitting 3 woods off the tee which expains his mediocre driving distance.If he can't hit driver on this course what hope does he have in the other majors?I think he will need a 4 wood for the US open because he's not hitting a lot of fairways with his 3 wood either.
Lindsey Newman
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I guess the thing that has bothered me about Tiger's whole approach (since leaving Hamon) is the/his idea of being able to hit every shot- fade, draw, high, low etc. I mean, I get the concept, but when I think Nicklaus, Hogan and Trevino I think fade. When I think Jones, Palmer and Player I think draw. Even with trackman and all we know now, you still should have a ball flight you can lean on as a professional. I watch Tiger routinely miss 11 fairway and I think to myself; "really?, you can't somehow carve something in there just once in 12 rounds?".
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"A drowning man will clutch at a straw." Tiger needs a therapist more than he needs a swing coach. After being asked in his press conference why its taken so long to make changes, he responded "I didn't think I would NEED to make an entire swing change."
The only way someone would make that comment is if someone (Foley) convinced him he needed a complete overhaul. If it was his decision to overhaul, he would have said as much. As far as agreeing or disagreeing with HK's philosophy on one swing through the bag, its just that, a philosophy.
People don't go to Dave Pelz to ask his opinion on the driver swing.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe its just the BBC coverage!
jeffy
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Yesterday he did drive it much better: 12 of 14 fairways, however he hit at least two fairways with nasty swings (13 and 15) and hit straight into the trees with his three wood on 17. Thursday he hit 6 fairways, Friday he hit 7. I thought his irons were much better on Friday, though, when he hit 14 greens, several where he stiffed it. That's what prompted the comparison to Luke Donald. Yesterday, he hit just 11 greens (despite hitting 5 more fairways than on Friday) and I don't remember any approaches that were special. To me, he seemed to struggle with distance control, hitting several long, the worst being on 18. It wasn't just the putter (and it is a Nike) that he shot 74.
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I agree. I have been a big skeptic of the current swing approach but the last two rounds he has hit it off the tee much better than he has in years. He hit a couple drives on both of the last two rounds that were very long and he is hitting more fairways.
His bunker play has suffered in recent years, which has to be just lack of practice, and he hasn't gotten the putter working again. I think his tempo is off slightly. If he had putted at his top level this week, he would be battling it out with McIlroy. I have changed my mind this week and think he wins again soon once he gets his putting sorted out.
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Tiger is Becoming ... my idol
adamscot89
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I don't think the 2000 Tiger would have won this past Sunday either, he never comes from behind in majors. Tiger's domination other than having an amazing amount of talent was centered around fear. Every other golfer on the course feared him and felt like they were going to lose to him at some point, that fear is gone, maybe for good. When you've got 20 something's who have never played the course before shooting 276 with Tiger lurking, you know he no longer has a mental edge. Really Y.E. Yang winning the PGA started it all, followed by the debacle that is Tiger's personal life. Yang stepped on the tee and said to himself, " I can swing better than this guy" and he did. Now every 20 something with a sponsor on their hat striping balls on the range next to Tiger chunking 3-woods knows they can take him or at least thinks they can, which is often more important. Someone said it best by welcoming Tiger to Jack's world. Trevino, Casper, Player, Palmer, Miller, those guys weren't scared of Jack, they might lose some to him, but they weren't scared of him and won a lot too, that's what the tour is moving to now, white belts, crazy colored clothes, and no fear.
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I've read a lot of the Tiger comments on this site and on many other websites (this site being much more informed than others). People said Tiger's aura is dead and that he's not the same with the putter anymore. And a question popped into my head.... if you had to pick one golfer to bet on over the next 5 years to win the most majors-- who would you pick??
I think there's quite a few possible answers... but for me its still Tiger and there really isn't a REAL CLOSE 2nd place candidate for me. What do you guys think?
I think there's quite a few possible answers... but for me its still Tiger and there really isn't a REAL CLOSE 2nd place candidate for me. What do you guys think?
Absolutely the intimidation factor is no longer there.He used to drive it further and straighter than everyone,hit long irons that flew 260 yards and stopped on a dime,hit recovery shots that no other player could dream of,a short game like Ballesteros,putted like Nicklaus and just for good measure,a killer instinct that would make Hogan blink.
With a game like that,even Nicklaus would feel inferior if he were playing when Woods was at his best.For a couple of years,Woods had the best A game of any player ever.Lets give the players in Tiger's best era some credit....and some sympathy.
With a game like that,even Nicklaus would feel inferior if he were playing when Woods was at his best.For a couple of years,Woods had the best A game of any player ever.Lets give the players in Tiger's best era some credit....and some sympathy.
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have you ever seen Tiger miss 3 footers like he did on sat and sunday???
Remember when he was 100% from within 5 feet 100% of the time?!! well, maybe not 100% but you can remember those stats, "Tiger has made 100 consecutive putts within 4 feet"
Richie3Jack
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I think two things cost him:
- Putting
- Driver play in the first 3 rounds.
He was last in fwys hit going into Sunday. He was hitting a lot of drivers that left him with impeded approach shots to the green. Golfers like Tiger hit it far enough to have a shot at the green, but they take away their shots at the flag or they have a shot...but it's much more difficult.
If he plays like he did on Sunday in rounds 1-3 as well, he probably wins the tournament even with the poor putting.
Of course, if he putts decent, he probably wins the tournament on that.
I know I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit if he blows out the field in his next tournament.
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If Rory plays like he did in rounds 1-3 its the most boring Masters ever.
Virtuoso
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YouTube - Tiger Woods Driver Swings w Slow Motion - Masters Practice Round.flv
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If he is going to continue to deliver the driver head to the ball at this angle, he's better off just hitting 3wood....especially if he is going to try to draw it.
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If he is going to continue to deliver the driver head to the ball at this angle, he's better off just hitting 3wood....especially if he is going to try to draw it.
Mike Thomas (sunmart)
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How does he not hit skypops.
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