Tiger Wood Swing Analysis - Pretty Good

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echoes77

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my mistake...it should read Tiger Woods' Swing Analysis...I should get his name right for heaven's sake...
 
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Jared Willerson

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So...does Brady Riggs not advocate the right shoulder going down plane?? I looked at all the other players on that sight and their shoulders do pretty much the same thing... a little flat shoulder turn going back and the right shoulder going down the plane on the downswing.

Does Brady want to see shoulders go more "out" than "down". If so, I really do not agree with that. The right shoulder HAS to go down plane or you are a HACK plain and simple.
 
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Mr Inconsistent

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I think he's saying you could lose accuracy if it is too drastic. Not sure exactly where I stand on that issue.

Looking at some of the other swing analysis' on that site I think Brady Riggs does a good job.
 
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Me too, I was actually kind of shocked he would say that. Maybe if we are talking about the top 1% of players in the world, but certainly not advice I would give an average player, as I am assuming is the bulk of Golf Tips magazine readership.
 
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I like Brady but I have yet to hear a single person who says, "The Tiger squat generates more power." actually EXPLAIN HOW. They just say it does.

And the whole thing about the shoulders flat on the backswing and steeper on the forward... I agree with those on this board. It should be working steeper "downplane" as is liked to be said. In fact, I think the shoulders are a bit too flat on the backswing. When Tiger DOESN'T let his right shoulder go down plane, that's when he hits the dead right pushes.
 
Redgoat

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Steve,

I am not a big fan of comparing other sports to golf but I would direct you towards a pitcher throwing, a batter taking a rip, a tennis serve, shot put, discus throw, boxer, etc. Using the ground to push against creates more power.

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Redgoat said:
Steve,

I am not a big fan of comparing other sports to golf but I would direct you towards a pitcher throwing, a batter taking a rip, a tennis serve, shot put, discus throw, boxer, etc. Using the ground to push against creates more power.

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Exactly what i am saying in Ringer's thread, i don't know how to explain it "scientifically" but it works.
 
Mr Inconsistent

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You have to bend your legs to use them is a short answer. Even to use them to generate rotational force instead of vertical.

Also, I would say that Tiger hits his blocks right when he gets too much axis tilt not too little. Too little would result in a pull or slice and too much would result in the club dropping inside a lot and starting it right.
 
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Ringer said:
I like Brady but I have yet to hear a single person who says, "The Tiger squat generates more power." actually EXPLAIN HOW. They just say it does.
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Get a dvd by Bobby Schaeffer called, "Explosive Power". It is all about this subject...
 
shortgamer

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IMO the backswing is more horizontal and the downswing is more vertical-you create axis tilt to set the right shoulder DOWN to the ball not around to the ball. Tiger squats but the left leg doesn't stay that way through impact, it straightens while the hands release. It's like cracking a whip-it's power baby!
I don't think this move would work with a sweep release.
 
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Ringer,
The golf swing is all about energy, creating energy and releasing energy. a Law of motion, objects in motion stay in motion
In the golf swing on the downswing your left shoulder goes three ways, forward UP and in, but once the left shoulder gets to a certain point it is back up and in. The keyword there is UP. you transfer energy down to the ground and what happes? it either stays there if the structure collapses or he posts his left side and it shoots back up. Thats the only two possibilities. When a baseball pitcher crouches down onto the rubber his weight/energy is going down and back, so on his forward motion he and the energy go up and forward off of the rubber.

If that is not enough for you ringer I will add more, but bassically it is all about energy and creating more enegy
 
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Mr Inconsistent said:
You have to bend your legs to use them is a short answer. Even to use them to generate rotational force instead of vertical.

Also, I would say that Tiger hits his blocks right when he gets too much axis tilt not too little. Too little would result in a pull or slice and too much would result in the club dropping inside a lot and starting it right.
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In one of his podcasts on Itunes, Brian talked about Tiger's shots going right and he seemed to indicate that it was a tension between pulling the club and pushing the club through impact that Butch Harmon had taught him. When those two concepts got mixed together, Tiger starting hitting the ball WAY right and that was the end of Butch. I don't remember Brian discussing axis tilt causing the blocking.
 
bts

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COG shift and "sustain the lag"

Ringer said:
I like Brady but I have yet to hear a single person who says, "The Tiger squat generates more power." actually EXPLAIN HOW. They just say it does.
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Pull/swirl a string with a stone tied to the other end.

And the whole thing about the shoulders flat on the backswing and steeper on the forward... I agree with those on this board. It should be working steeper "downplane" as is liked to be said. In fact, I think the shoulders are a bit too flat on the backswing. When Tiger DOESN'T let his right shoulder go down plane, that's when he hits the dead right pushes.
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"Flat back" and "steep down" are the "effect" of complying to the "LAW" of rotation and lag sustaining (the "cause").

Very nice rewiew and a text book swing, except the "squat", which demands tremendous talent.
 
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except the "squat", which demands tremendous talent.
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Actually bts, the squat doesn't require any talent whatsover. Just bracing your leg muscles from semi-relaxed will cause you to "squat" down two inches.

The tremendous talent is required in recovering from the squat, by exactly the correct amount of opposite lift or "jump-up" (otherwise you would hit the ground behind the ball)..

I know how difficult this is, I've tried it...:D :eek: :eek:

Maybe there is any easy way?

Anyone know an easy way to lift your swing circle back up to exactly where it was at address?...

C'mon, don't hold back, give us the info....:D
 
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Squatting in the backswing is easier than squatting in the downswing. Less timing, easier to balance and body is more responsive to the downward blow.
 
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Jared Willerson

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I don't know the idea of exerting force downward with my right leg, like I'm getting ready to jump for a rebound helps me and is pretty easy.

An easier thought is simply getting my tail bone to move forward instead of backward in the downswing, kind of makes the whole squat thing easier. Of course, you have to have a decent pivot in the first place. Kind of hard to make the tail bone go forward when it has already gone backward (sway)
 
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glcoach said:
I don't know the idea of exerting force downward with my right leg, like I'm getting ready to jump for a rebound helps me and is pretty easy.

An easier thought is simply getting my tail bone to move forward instead of backward in the downswing, kind of makes the whole squat thing easier. Of course, you have to have a decent pivot in the first place. Kind of hard to make the tail bone go forward when it has already gone backward (sway)
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Gl we aren't talking about just squatting and jumping off the right leg, but about jumping off BOTH legs a la Tiger...

Totally different mate....(as you will find out when you try it)....:D
 
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