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Ahhh--Tiger Balm.....not Ben Gay.
Sigh...the Canadian doc was NOT injecting massive amounts of steriods into his clients, but using a miniscule (think eye-drop) amount of HGH and mixing it in with the client's blood to aid in the recovery process. A great method for speeding up the recovery process and one that is becoming standard practice in some countries - Kobe Bryant didn't go to Germany for the Jaeger Schnitzel and Bittburger Pils. Give it 10 years (and massive pay-offs to the AMA and FDA) and it'll be legal in the states.
You are mistaken, if you think that it is legal in Europe, quite the contrary. Let me be more specific: legal, yes, if you are not an athlete, competing in a sport that has to comply to the WADA code. But if you have to follow the WADA code, all processing of blood and reinjecting it is illegal in the sense that it is considered forbidden doping. And, if you fall under the WADA code, it is considered a criminal offence (sports fraud) in Germany, Italy, France, Austria and most other European countries. Just ask all the Austrian cross-country skiers, cyclists triathletes and their coaches and managers who are on trial in Vienna at the moment. And ask their German counterparts who are very much afraid that somebody will be starting to spell out names.
Fair enough, if your sport is governed by WADA, it's illegal, however absurd - not sure a person would get busted since the amount of HGH used is so small. Anyway, the point of my post wasn't the legallity of the procedure but that it's a safe and effective method to aid in recovery, and that it will be commonplace one day.
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Not trying to be an douche here but how do you know it's safe? Have you read reports on it? Are they credible doctors? Steroids used to be legal too.
Nothing is really safe at the end of the day.
Doctors are the most dangerous people on earth, apart from violent criminals.
Those who sponsor studies on the safety of medical procedures (pharma companies etc.) are the biggest criminals in business, apart from hard drug street dealers: people are regarded as expendible pieces of flesh, from which money can be made while they live and when they die, funeral companies can finish the job off.
Profit profit profit, that is all that matters to all but a few exceptions.
Doctors are the most dangerous people on earth, apart from violent criminals.
Those who sponsor studies on the safety of medical procedures (pharma companies etc.) are the biggest criminals in business, apart from hard drug street dealers: people are regarded as expendible pieces of flesh, from which money can be made while they live and when they die, funeral companies can finish the job off.
Profit profit profit, that is all that matters to all but a few exceptions.
Frans@France
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The demonization of steroids and hGH is just plain stupid. These are truly powerful drugs with a wide variety of practical applications that mainstream medicine will eventually adopt. And yes, Steroids, and to a lesser extent, hGH, are legal for a wide variety of uses in the US - AIDS treatment, low testosterone, etc..
Dr. Anthony Galea, the doctor in question, is/was a highly respected sports medicine MD in Canada. Did he illegally smuggle hGH into the US? Yep. Was he doing procedures not approved in the US? Yep. Does it make them unsafe or immoral? Not in my book. Here's a good article on him:
Controversial Canadian doctor Anthony Galea: cutting edge or over the edge?
And here's another highly respected MD using so-called cutting edge techniques to help out athletes - in this case Bartolo Colon, who has had an amazing come back with the Yankees.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/12/sports/baseball/disputed-treatment-was-used-in-bartolo-colons-comeback.html?_r=1&ref=anthonygalea
Bottom line - 10 years from now this stuff will be the norm.
Lindsey Newman
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Since when was the "norm" ever ethical or desirable, but I get your point.
Shot Limit
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^^^^^Kelly Tillman? Is that you? ^^^^^
faux_maestro
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Nice.
birly-shirly
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The norm? So in 10 years time, we'll all be getting up in the middle of the night to do star jumps because our blood is so thick that we're at risk of cardiac arrest if we sleep for more than 4 hours at a time?
Yes - these are powerful drugs with legitimate uses, but very few medical interventions are risk free. Equating the abuse of these substances by cheating athletes with conventional, ethical, medical treatment is missing the point. If that's your future norm, you're welcome to it.
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