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lia41985

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The best that ever did it:
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thx for the great video clips

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The best that ever did it:
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the video clips are great! - his swing was solid in 2000 - and physically he was definitely less muscular back then.
 
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golfdad

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when tiger rehearses his practice swings that much during the round, it gives me the impression that he is still trying to acquire something that is not his own. i question if this change of this whole persona is really himself.

if only he did not hit that fire hydrant:)
 
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I am not an expert by any means, but I know 'saving it' and 'fitting it in' when I see it. Many of his swings look like mine on slo mo, when you know you have screwed the pooch somewhere in the transition and the rest of the swing becomes an effort just to save it.

His iron swings look absolutley aweful, and he looks like he could tip over at any minute.
 
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I mean, you can keep going back and looking at his swing and it's hard to know what he thinks enough is in terms of when's enough in terms of when's a swing good enough (or when do you have enough women--addictive personality):
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Some quotes:
• Rudy Duran (started working with Woods when Tiger was 4): "Tiger's swing was a tool, like a chisel for a sculptor. But first he had the vision, and the tool carried that out. He didn't think about where his elbow was pointing when he used the chisel. He thought about the image he was seeing."

• John Anselmo (began working with Woods when Tiger was 10): "I think the teachers after me have done a good job, but I don't think he needed much changing, to be honest. Sure, there was a looseness to his swing, but that was just because he hadn't filled out. I liked that freedom, that full release of his body. That was beautiful. He should hold onto that."

• Butch Harmon (began working with Woods when Tiger was 17): "I thought he hit the ball plenty far enough, and that his strength was that he was one of the longest and most accurate drivers. When he drove the ball in the fairway, he was nearly unbeatable. That's what I kept trying to drive into him. But it didn't take. It's something about the ego of these long hitters. So we parted ways."

• Hank Haney (officially began to work with Woods in 2004): "I think it's fair to say that Butch had a better body to work with than I did. With me, he started looking more like a linebacker than a golfer. ... Tiger Woods does what he wants to do. The other thing, in the last three years, he hasn't worked as hard. Without a doubt there has been a slip in his work ethic."

• Sean Foley (began working with Woods in 2010): "What Tiger was doing wasn't efficient. He was losing tons of speed and power, some of the things that used to most separate him. And then he was getting more crooked. He couldn't hit the fairway because his alignments were not correct. Simple as that."

• Jack Nicklaus: "When Tiger started out, there was nothing mechanical about him. Now he plays by mechanics, but I've noticed that when he starts making mistakes, he instinctively reverts back to feel. When he really has to win something, the touch and feel that he reverts to produces some unbelievable results. There are no mechanics at all when he's really under the gun. That's how he should play all the time."
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From: Exclusive video: The Evolution Of Tiger's Swing: Golf Digest
 
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Lia thanks for sharing the link. The thing that struck me in the video is how forced/awkward the follow throughs seem in the Haney and Foley methods when compared to Tiger's earlier swing. Something is going on earlier in those swings where Tiger has to make compensations to try and save the shot.
 
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Which one of these swings is better and why?

From 2000:
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From 2005:
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It seems like the hand path in the 2005 swing is better, no?
 
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mgranato said:
His calendar is more open now.
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Hank is a good example of the good ole sayin "stand still and the world passes you by".

When you get to the top that you have less/no reason to change - hence the fall of all the great empires of the past. Those at the bottom have to be more inventive than those at the top.
 
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lia41985 said:
From 2000:
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From 2005:
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It seems like the hand path in the 2005 swing is better, no?
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2000 and 2005 are better imo. The '05 is smooooooth and best of that bunch.
 
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Tiger's drive and second shot into 18 today, on the second day of Tavistock, were very good--I slow-mo'ed the swings via DVR and he looked less steep.
 
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lia41985 said:
Tiger's drive and second shot into 18 today, on the second day of Tavistock, were very good--I slow-mo'ed the swings via DVR and he looked less steep.
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hi lia could you post that vid i would love to see it, thank you for all the great vids and info that you have posted already.
 
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lia41985

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gailfcno said:
hi lia could you post that vid i would love to see it, thank you for all the great vids and info that you have posted already.
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Sorry, I have no idea how to. Second swing looked similar to this--notice the drill before he swings:
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Drive looked similar to this:
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Before today's drive on 18 Tiger was using the McDowell drill, working on swinging left.
 
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