Tiger's finish swivel

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What is Tiger trying to accomplish with the finish swivel he's been using during his Haney era? What is it he is doing exactly? How is he doing it and why?
 

Brian Manzella

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The Answer man strkes again!

What is Tiger trying to accomplish with the finish swivel he's been using during his Haney era?

He is trying to copy Ben Hogan's mechanics and get Hogan's ball-striking results.

What is it he is doing exactly?

He is going from ARCHED at the top—to flat on the way down—to maybe slightly bent—to flat and then to arched at impact—gradually re-flattenning and rotating while bending slightly and on some shots BENDING A LOT while also turning the palm toward himself.

Hogan.

Good stuff though.
 

Steve Khatib

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He doesnt know how to produce it via the pivot work though, He was swinging really bad against Nick Ohearn he was just plain steering and avoiding rotation! It was awful.
 

benk

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Brian, if he was copying Hogan's mechanics, wouldn't his backswing mirror Hogans a little bit more?? I do agree though that from the top of his backswing to his follow through, hes doing a lot of things like Hogan/Snead did them.
 
"He doesnt know how to produce it via the pivot work though, He was swinging really bad against Nick Ohearn he was just plain steering and avoiding rotation! It was awful."

TW got off to a slow start that match but came on strong on the back nine.
His wedge on 18 which led to a bridie to tie the match was a terrific clutch shot.
Tiger still should have won the match. He missed an easy 3 1/2 foot putt on the first playoff hole. O'Hearn scrambled well al day.
Tiger also hit the par 5 17th in two but the ball bounced off the green and over just bad luck. His drives on 17 and 18 were bombs 50-60yds past O'Hearn. TW will be tough to beat in the majors this year.
 
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"He doesnt know how to produce it via the pivot work though, He was swinging really bad against Nick Ohearn he was just plain steering and avoiding rotation! It was awful."

TW got off to a slow start that match but came on strong on the back nine.
His wedge on 18 which led to a bridie to tie the match was a terrific clutch shot.
Tiger still should have won the match. He missed an easy 3 1/2 foot putt on the first playoff hole. O'Hearn scrambled well al day.
Tiger also hit the par 5 17th in two but the ball bounced off the green and over just bad luck. His drives on 17 and 18 were bombs 50-60yds past O'Hearn. TW will be tough to beat in the majors this year.

Not disputing Tiger's good shots, but he did have "help" twice in the closing 9, when the crowd around the green stopped his errant ball from going right into the nasty desert, whereby he managed to get up and down to halve the holes...
 
Good Eye Brian!

"gradually re-flattenning and rotating while bending slightly and on some shots BENDING A LOT while also turning the palm toward himself."

Thanks Brian, "turning the palm toward himself", is the part I just couldn't decipher, but you're right on. One of the many little bits that could be classified as "Hogan's secret".
 

Steve Khatib

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My point was missed in this post.

Guys have a really good think about it and ask yourself this question?

How good a player is Tiger inspite of what he is trying to do under false means of application eg position golf?

My answer: he is awesome.
 

benk

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I'm confused by your answer brian.

I dont mean the shoulder plane, I'm more talking about his backswing. Hogan got his hands "behind" him where Tiger gets his in front of him going up. That is more of what my question is about.
 
"He doesnt know how to produce it via the pivot work though, He was swinging really bad against Nick Ohearn he was just plain steering and avoiding rotation! It was awful."

TW got off to a slow start that match but came on strong on the back nine.
His wedge on 18 which led to a bridie to tie the match was a terrific clutch shot.
Tiger still should have won the match. He missed an easy 3 1/2 foot putt on the first playoff hole. O'Hearn scrambled well al day.
Tiger also hit the par 5 17th in two but the ball bounced off the green and over just bad luck. His drives on 17 and 18 were bombs 50-60yds past O'Hearn. TW will be tough to beat in the majors this year.

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