Brian Manzella
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I STILL want alford to post on the clubfacxe thread...pretty please....
To my friend DA
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quote:Originally posted by holenone
My twin Yoda and I were separated at birth. He says I have an attitude and so does this site. So, he makes me post here.
What's funny is that before you confirmed that "the master and student are one," it seemed to me that Yoda and Holenone had different personalities. Now I understand!!
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quote:Originally posted by holenone
My twin Yoda and I were separated at birth. He says I have an attitude and so does this site. So, he makes me post here.
What's funny is that before you confirmed that "the master and student are one," it seemed to me that Yoda and Holenone had different personalities. Now I understand!!
You don't know the half of it. The biggest problem of my little brother's life has been dealing with his big sister's rep.
David Alford
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Greg, see? Matthew takes a statement out of context from weeks ago in another thread in a different forum, with yet another personal attack that is a mini essay on how worthless I am as a human being.
The conclusion, "HK is just plain wrong!", was not a stand alone comment. It was a summation following a slew of posts citing specifically why I thought he was wrong. See the thread on HK's analysis of Bobby Clampett's swing for the 7 SPECIFIC reasons.
This proves again the point, no post will be well received here if it disagrees with HK or TGM unless submitted with maximum reverance to the guru gods here.
My criticism of HK's analysis of Clampett's swing and my observation TGM could have and should have been written more clearly have produced HUNDREDS of posts and innumberable personal attacks thrown at me. Make a lot of sense? Not to me.
Ironically when people inquire, they find I don't have other criticisms of TGM. Above, I have given HK some credit for good thinking. Does Matthew take note of that and say "hey, the guy complimented HK and said he doesn't have any major criticisms of TGM?". No. He goes hunting around to find another bone to contend so he can launch yet another personal attack.
And this is after I suggested trying an experiment. Namely, stop the personal attacks and see what happens. That olive branch was thrown right back at me.
And now, Brian, growing tired of a modicum of good will in recent days, wants me to post on a subject where he thinks I will founder so he can pounce and rip into me.
Same-O, Same-O, around the world. Defend that belief system!
The conclusion, "HK is just plain wrong!", was not a stand alone comment. It was a summation following a slew of posts citing specifically why I thought he was wrong. See the thread on HK's analysis of Bobby Clampett's swing for the 7 SPECIFIC reasons.
This proves again the point, no post will be well received here if it disagrees with HK or TGM unless submitted with maximum reverance to the guru gods here.
My criticism of HK's analysis of Clampett's swing and my observation TGM could have and should have been written more clearly have produced HUNDREDS of posts and innumberable personal attacks thrown at me. Make a lot of sense? Not to me.
Ironically when people inquire, they find I don't have other criticisms of TGM. Above, I have given HK some credit for good thinking. Does Matthew take note of that and say "hey, the guy complimented HK and said he doesn't have any major criticisms of TGM?". No. He goes hunting around to find another bone to contend so he can launch yet another personal attack.
And this is after I suggested trying an experiment. Namely, stop the personal attacks and see what happens. That olive branch was thrown right back at me.
And now, Brian, growing tired of a modicum of good will in recent days, wants me to post on a subject where he thinks I will founder so he can pounce and rip into me.
Same-O, Same-O, around the world. Defend that belief system!
David Alford
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David....
I would like you to comment on the clubface in the "What controls the clubface post."
Please.
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>He can't
My heart. Happy?
I would like you to comment on the clubface in the "What controls the clubface post."
Please.
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>He can't
My heart. Happy?
David Alford
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Well, I guess it is a religion. I don't know how one can diplomatically give specific reasons why an analysis is wrong other that to simply state the reasons and then defend them. If you go back to the Bobby Clampett swing analysis forum, you'll see that's exactly what I did. AFTER REQUESTING PERMISSION TO DO SO!!!
The answer as to what control the clubface was given. My heart. Anyone who hits the ball really well is going to make a sacrifice, and that is controlled by the heart.
The answer Brian wants is on pg.___ of TGM, but my answer is better. Try to find that in TGM. The heart controls the clubface. That's a truth you won't find in any golfing book. But here it is, and no one recognizes it. I bet Hogan and Moe Norman would.
The answer as to what control the clubface was given. My heart. Anyone who hits the ball really well is going to make a sacrifice, and that is controlled by the heart.
The answer Brian wants is on pg.___ of TGM, but my answer is better. Try to find that in TGM. The heart controls the clubface. That's a truth you won't find in any golfing book. But here it is, and no one recognizes it. I bet Hogan and Moe Norman would.
Wow... the viceral hatred is just oozing before I've even posted a thing. If you enter into debate with this mentality already, how can it even be concieved of that you might actually ponder what I have to say with any sort of true objectivity? I might as well just say "You're always right." right now and put you on ignore so that we can spare everyone else of the pissing contest you would no doubt try to induce.
Njmp2, the attack on ringer was totally uncalled for, i think he is a VALUABLE addition to this group.
Ringer might be able to communicate a thought differently than the norm here, where someone might actually understand it!!
This is a GOLF SWING discussion board, and to keep learning new ideas should always be read and thought out to see the correctness or incorrectness of its value.
Some people when reading on a subject might need complete details, others may get it faster with comparisons, still others with a combination.
If you noticed the thread about the next version of TGM the book, actually read some of the comments, it seems LOTS think it needs to be rewritten so MORE can understand it, and LOTS want video explaining the book and terms. What does this tell you????
Now i will be the first to agree if a poster's post say nothing except criticisms, or personal attacks, then id rather NOT have them here. I don't mind criticisms, in fact they are needed to expand MY thinking, because I for one have EXTREME trouble understanding TGM.
So, please don't go attacking someone that hasn't be given a chance to present their ideas as it may be helpful to someone like me.
Sorry for the rant.......
Ringer might be able to communicate a thought differently than the norm here, where someone might actually understand it!!
This is a GOLF SWING discussion board, and to keep learning new ideas should always be read and thought out to see the correctness or incorrectness of its value.
Some people when reading on a subject might need complete details, others may get it faster with comparisons, still others with a combination.
If you noticed the thread about the next version of TGM the book, actually read some of the comments, it seems LOTS think it needs to be rewritten so MORE can understand it, and LOTS want video explaining the book and terms. What does this tell you????
Now i will be the first to agree if a poster's post say nothing except criticisms, or personal attacks, then id rather NOT have them here. I don't mind criticisms, in fact they are needed to expand MY thinking, because I for one have EXTREME trouble understanding TGM.
So, please don't go attacking someone that hasn't be given a chance to present their ideas as it may be helpful to someone like me.
Sorry for the rant.......
quote:Originally posted by denny.
You saying all this reminds me of the movie "To Sir With Love". You are really growing . Hope you become an A.I.
I would absolutely love to teach golf for a living, but since no AI's in UK ...becoming an authorized instructor doesn't look too promising.... fate it seems doesn't want me to much in the golf world. I wouldn't know where to begin in searching for that quest anyways but its one I wish sometimes I could take
Maybe when I get to my girlfriend in Michigan things will be different though ....
Brian Manzella
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I am THRILLED to have Ringer/Steve abord!
Welcome sir!!
Welcome sir!!
David Alford
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>He hasn't yet, and wait til Ringer chimes in with his dribble. David will sound like a genius. If you want to learn about TGM, or at the very least a sound TGM based golf swing, this is the place. If you just want to refute everything most of seriously study, then senseless arguing will waste everyones valuable time. Neither <Wow... the viceral hatred is just oozing before I've even posted a thing. If you enter into debate with this mentality already, how can it even be concieved of that you might actually ponder what I have to say with any sort of true objectivity? I might as well just say "You're always right." right now and put you on ignore so that we can spare everyone else of the pissing contest you would no doubt try to induce.>
Exactly. There can't be any fair debate with this revenge mentality coming from all directions. There can be Q & A's, but that is not debate.
Exactly. There can't be any fair debate with this revenge mentality coming from all directions. There can be Q & A's, but that is not debate.
David Alford
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<If you noticed the thread about the next version of TGM the book, actually read some of the comments, it seems LOTS think it needs to be rewritten so MORE can understand it, and LOTS want video explaining the book and terms. What does this tell you????>
It tells me my criticsim of TGM's "style" is shared by others. But my opponents knew that. "It has to read like a law book..." I humbly submit "haha, no actually it doesn't", sir!
It tells me my criticsim of TGM's "style" is shared by others. But my opponents knew that. "It has to read like a law book..." I humbly submit "haha, no actually it doesn't", sir!
David Alford
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Matthew wrote:
<David Alford has alot to learn about civility and getting on with others..>
Can you teach, me kind sir? Perhaps I will study your posts to understand the art of civility.
Would they be good instruction?
Yeah, right.
<David Alford has alot to learn about civility and getting on with others..>
Can you teach, me kind sir? Perhaps I will study your posts to understand the art of civility.
Would they be good instruction?
Yeah, right.
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