birly-shirly
New
I like the sound of the sharpie test. But can anyone who has used it in anger comment on the tolerance or error?
I'm just thinking that most people are probably ultimately going to fall within 1 or 2 degrees of standard. I'm a pretty average build so am pretty certain that I would. And even a 2 degree "error" is going to show up as a change of around a millimeter in the line left on the clubface. With that in mind, you would need to be extremely precise in aligning each ball to be struck. And then it might be pretty difficult to extract an "average" club lie error from a reasonable number of shots to a tolerance of any less than 2*.
In other words, I'm not sure that I could actually perform the test to an accuracy of less than 2*. And I'm not sure whether a lie "error" of 2* or less is worth worrying about from a practical standpoint for the average player.
Finally, what is the practical effect on ballflight of a club whose lie angle is a degree or 2 out. I understand the principle of "loft at an angle" but I'd like to know what the real effect is on say a 160 yard 6 iron.
Sorry if this comes across as unduly sceptical. It's not intended to be - I'm just trying to get my head round the practical issues. I wouldn't need much persuasion to get a loft and lie machine - but I would need to be able to justify it!
I'm just thinking that most people are probably ultimately going to fall within 1 or 2 degrees of standard. I'm a pretty average build so am pretty certain that I would. And even a 2 degree "error" is going to show up as a change of around a millimeter in the line left on the clubface. With that in mind, you would need to be extremely precise in aligning each ball to be struck. And then it might be pretty difficult to extract an "average" club lie error from a reasonable number of shots to a tolerance of any less than 2*.
In other words, I'm not sure that I could actually perform the test to an accuracy of less than 2*. And I'm not sure whether a lie "error" of 2* or less is worth worrying about from a practical standpoint for the average player.
Finally, what is the practical effect on ballflight of a club whose lie angle is a degree or 2 out. I understand the principle of "loft at an angle" but I'd like to know what the real effect is on say a 160 yard 6 iron.
Sorry if this comes across as unduly sceptical. It's not intended to be - I'm just trying to get my head round the practical issues. I wouldn't need much persuasion to get a loft and lie machine - but I would need to be able to justify it!