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Rundmc,

No web spinning required. It's easiest to learn using only your left hand and by holding your left wrist is a virtical position. With your left arm hanging naturally to your left side, simply place the grip under the heel pad of your left hand, use your middle finger only to hook the shaft, keep all other fingers off the club, raise your entire left arm. The club is balanced on two pressure points, the heel pad and the middle finger. Allow the weight of the club to pull the wrist into a level position. You can even have someone pull on the club, and notice it will stay secure using only these two pressure points. Now simply place the last two fingers on the shaft--don't disturb the balance, and place your thumb and index finger as usual. Instead of grounding the club behing the ball at address you can sort of let it hover ala Daly/Nicklaus and feel the balance as described above.

Now try with a turned left wrist ala 10-2-D. Take note of what happens in the transition between backstroke and downstroke. Note how you can really drag the sweetspot from the top while making the angle between you left forearm and shaft more acute. Your hands will start screaming to your pivot "go, go, go, or we're gonna have some serious throwaway". Your pivot will need to smoothly accelerate the power package from the top. A good thought is to maintain extensor action dragging the sweetspot during transition. Avoid any tendancy to tighten the last two fingers of the left hand during transistion as that will lead to throway. Let the power of your pivot poor into acc#2 making it as acute as possilbe (closing the angle between left forearm and clubshaft), the automatic snap release will make everything ok @impact.
 

rundmc

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quote:Originally posted by tobell

Rundmc,

No web spinning required. It's easiest to learn using only your left hand and by holding your left wrist is a virtical position. With your left arm hanging naturally to your left side, simply place the grip under the heel pad of your left hand, use your middle finger only to hook the shaft, keep all other fingers off the club, raise your entire left arm. The club is balanced on two pressure points, the heel pad and the middle finger. Allow the weight of the club to pull the wrist into a level position. You can even have someone pull on the club, and notice it will stay secure using only these two pressure points. Now simply place the last two fingers on the shaft--don't disturb the balance, and place your thumb and index finger as usual. Instead of grounding the club behing the ball at address you can sort of let it hover ala Daly/Nicklaus and feel the balance as described above.

Now try with a turned left wrist ala 10-2-D. Take note of what happens in the transition between backstroke and downstroke. Note how you can really drag the sweetspot from the top while making the angle between you left forearm and shaft more acute. Your hands will start screaming to your pivot "go, go, go, or we're gonna have some serious throwaway". Your pivot will need to smoothly accelerate the power package from the top. A good thought is to maintain extensor action dragging the sweetspot during transition. Avoid any tendancy to tighten the last two fingers of the left hand during transistion as that will lead to throway. Let the power of your pivot poor into acc#2 making it as acute as possilbe (closing the angle between left forearm and clubshaft), the automatic snap release will make everything ok @impact.

Cool! Got it now. By the way . . . who are you? Are you teaching pro? Learnin' from your postin'.
 
Rundmc,

Just a washed-up obsessive-compulsive wanna-be never-was who squandered his youth playing golf and shooting pool. First bought the little yellow book around 1980 and couldn’t crack the code--the book really needed these internet forums--thanks to those who participate. Now I have my fun carting the kids around to baketball, baseball and soccer. Don't even play anymore, I'm strictly virtual-- haven't played since children. Try to keep my 9-year old off the course due to the family weakness/sickness-- genes are very powerful little buggers. You’re best advised to run any-and-everything by the gurus.....I think NAT, YODA, Brian, and many others are great!
 

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quote:Originally posted by tongzilla

The 10-2-D Grip is actually helpful for Throwaway prevention and was recommended by Homer in the 3rd Edition. Why has it been removed? I don't know, but its inferiorty as mentioned above probably played a part.

I would guess it was removed because it is not 'ideal' from a physics standpoint. Transfer power is really where the phrase "effortless power" comes from, and to have it, you need to allow the clubs design to be an advantage (10-2-B or even 10-2-A) in generating power. If the club were designed like a croquet (sp?) mallet, 10-2-D would have more advantages than disadvantages.

That said, 10-2-D is really a good place for the majority of people to begin their journey in learning to compress a ball for the reason you mentioned - it really 'almost' ensures no throwaway - which is something most folks have. A faster way to learn what 'solid' and 'downplane force' feels like, and sounds like - Alex Morrison style.
 
EdZ,

Thanks for your help. A pretty radical idea regarding Transfer Power was conveyed intentionally or otherwise (maybe I'm missreading the tea-leaves here) when NAT (Annikan) posted something regarding the pivot train and MORAD. Grossly understated for simplicity sake, how about the concept that acc#3 extends not just to the left shoulder hinge, but all the way down through the entire pivot train right to the feet. Watch some video of Daly/Bubby Watson with this thought in mind before you dismiss it.
 

EdZ

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quote:Originally posted by tobell

EdZ,

Thanks for your help. A pretty radical idea regarding Transfer Power was conveyed intentionally or otherwise (maybe I'm missreading the tea-leaves here) when NAT (Annikan) posted something regarding the pivot train and MORAD. Grossly understated for simplicity sake, how about the concept that acc#3 extends not just to the left shoulder hinge, but all the way down through the entire pivot train right to the feet. Watch some video of Daly/Bubby Watson with this thought in mind before you dismiss it.

I will not dismiss it, I agree. The true 'lever' can be extended to the feet and the pivot plays a key "roll" in the power transfer.
 
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