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tongzilla said:
Brian and other Twisters,

What happens when you do the Twistaway without the Twist, i.e. Arch your left wrist without Rolling it??

U talking bout the Downius Strokeius?
 
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tongzilla said:
Brian and other Twisters,

What happens when you do the Twistaway without the Twist, i.e. Arch your left wrist without Rolling it??

If talking about the backius swingius, you'd wind up offplane.
 

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sandpacker said:
Seems like a twist away, from impact fix, would simplify the swing.

That was my pattern for about 6 months.

Start with a flat left wrist at impact fix
Keep the left wrist flat throughout the swing and the finish

However i over cooked it for too long and messed up my shoulder a bit though so i let it bend much earlier but it sure helped me play some good golf for a long time. Maybe i'll go back to it for a little while for fun
 
I went out and played today and tried to Twist Away at the Top and then tried to "Hit the Box." At first my ball flight was a push-fade. Then I remembered Brian telling me to swing the left shoulder more behind me on the through swing. This brought the ball flight back to the intended target with almost no curvature. It was actually a pretty simple move. Does this sound as though I am on the right track?
 

Brian Manzella

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Another mashes the ball!

Yup.


Folks, just remember, the twist-away is for those who NEED it.

Not everyone does.

I had a forum memeber take 4 hours of lessons in the last two days and there was NO TWISTING-away at all.

Why?

HE didn't need it.
 
One thing that Twist Away does for me is take out the tendency to bounce the club at the Top. This greatly improves my Structure which simplifies the downswing significantly.
 

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tongzilla said:
Yeah, backius swingius.

But I think a Rolling motion causes the shaft to point to the right of target.

That would be rolled too much. You only need a enough of a roll so the FLW is on plane.
 
Why bother with a twistaway when you can strengthen your grip and get out of the rolling procedure all together? It does not make sense to me. The rolling procedure is supposed to give you distance but I would take John daly's ,fred couples, and Duval's distances any day of the week. Why are traditional instructors avoiding this grip. Is this a Ben Hogan secret nobody wants to not have?

Dave
 

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davel said:
Why bother with a twistaway when you can strengthen your grip and get out of the rolling procedure all together? It does not make sense to me. The rolling procedure is supposed to give you distance but I would take John daly's ,fred couples, and Duval's distances any day of the week. Why are traditional instructors avoiding this grip. Is this a Ben Hogan secret nobody wants to not have?

Dave

Because it's a band-aid (at first) if you don't learn clubface control and lag first.

Once you can do both above, i have nothing against a super strong grip.
 
manzella vs. dante

How does the Manzella "Twist-Away" compare with Dante's "Magic Move"?

What advantages/disadvantages does each have?

Are there certain cases where one works better than the other?
 
tongzilla said:
Yeah, backius swingius.

But I think a Rolling motion causes the shaft to point to the right of target.

But Rolling is for the Down Stroke (TGM terms!!! get with it Tongz!! jeez....;)).

Wait......the Twist Away is supposed to be Swivel-less tho.....no?
 

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Pretty sharp there birdieman. Personally, I think HK blew it. My wrist "rolls" on the backswing, but yes...HK calls it turn.
 

Brian Manzella

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davel said:
Why bother with a twistaway when you can strengthen your grip and get out of the rolling procedure all together? It does not make sense to me. The rolling procedure is supposed to give you distance but I would take John daly's ,fred couples, and Duval's distances any day of the week. Why are traditional instructors avoiding this grip. Is this a Ben Hogan secret nobody wants to not have?

Dave

That's right Dave, let 'em all do it their way.

That's why I "taking over golf," these numbskulls couldn't figure out the answer to your question either.

It is called a Paradigm. ;)
 
birdie_man said:
But Rolling is for the Down Stroke (TGM terms!!! get with it Tongz!! jeez....;)).

Wait......the Twist Away is supposed to be Swivel-less tho.....no?

I actually meant what I said... ROLL not TURN birdieman!!
The twistaway combines a "Roll" with an Arch of the left wrist
 
Leo I'm confused buddy.

You said in the Back Stroke (backius swingius!).

....I guess you mean "rolling" seperate from the TGM def. of Rolling then....?

I really think the Twistaway is Swivel-less tho (in backswing).

-Paul
 
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The more things change the more things stay the same. I first heard of the Twist-Away ( although it was not called that) 15 years ago from Chad Williams, who learned it from Lionel Hebert 30 years ago. I was reintroduced to it by Brian 3 weeks ago. These little secrets don't seem to make it on Academy Live or Golf Digest, but it is amazing that Lionel Hebert who won the PGA in 1957 was doing it successfully back then.
 
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