Twist Away

[tongzilla]

Leo I'm confused buddy.

You said in the Back Stroke (backius swingius!).

....I guess you mean "rolling" seperate from the TGM def. of Rolling then....?

I really think the Twistaway is Swivel-less tho (in backswing).

-Paul

Birdie,

Yes, "swivel-less" is a better phrase to describe what should be done...i.e. less compensated.
But to my knowledge, sometimes Brian actually wants the player (slicer) to make a rolling motion with the left wrist along with the arch too. All this "wedding ring up" stuff gets people to do that.

 

[Tball88]

Ok, maybe I'm not real quick, or have missed something, but what the he#$ are you referring to when you say "now you need to hit the box"


Break it down into layman's terms.... riddles are killing me

 

[birdie_man]

Word!

 

[johngolf33]

As I experimented with Twist-Away and "hit the box" I am curious about which Hinge Action is preferable. It seems to me that it allows for Angled Hinging to occur naturally but what do I know?

 

[johngolf33]

Brian,

When are you coming back to the Bayou State?

 

[johngolf33]

Videoed my swing this week and experimented with Twist-Away vs. standard wrist action. My structure was much better with Twist-Away i.e. FLW, no bobbing of the club at End, better sustaining of #2 accumulator on the downswing. However I have hit some shanks. Do you think that it could be due to lack of rotation around the sweet spot causing the hosel to hit the inside quadrant instead of the sweet spot?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Videoed my swing this week and experimented with Twist-Away vs. standard wrist action. My structure was much better with Twist-Away i.e. FLW, no bobbing of the club at End, better sustaining of #2 accumulator on the downswing. However I have hit some shanks. Do you think that it could be due to lack of rotation around the sweet spot causing the hosel to hit the inside quadrant instead of the sweet spot?

you didn't "hold the twist" you let it open, thus the shank.

 

[johngolf33]

Thanks Jim! When you hold the Twist Away do you do any rotation around the sweet spot on the downswing or is it a no-roll procedure?

 

[curtisj76]

johngolf33 - Let me tell you what Brian has said in the past, "Lag the sweetspot, not the hosel." It makes sense when you think about it, just wished there was a drill for this. I know there's a drill where someone puts there finger on the clubface but if you're alone that doesn't help. Brian, any good drills?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

I only feel roll from impact to follow through, i dont feel any normal horizontal roll like i do when swinging.

That's because i feel the twist-away promotes a more simultaneous release verus a sequenced.

 

[johngolf33]

Does that mean that Twist Away is better used with Hitting vs. Swinging?

 

[birdie_man]

I only feel roll from impact to follow through, i dont feel any normal horizontal roll like i do when swinging.

That's because i feel the twist-away promotes a more simultaneous release verus a sequenced.

Agreed!

Brian....

I know in your article you teach ppl to Twistaway THEN go "wedding ring up" (FULL Roll)....this is for slicers....was thought up to help slicers.....

To me a full Roll in the downswing best suited to, well, a full Turn (full Swivel) in the backswing.....so you don't hit it lefter than left......

But I'm guessing that's cause I CAN Swivel properly in the backswing....and DO have clubface control (and lag....so don't need to learn lag so much....i.e. by learning to not hook it)....?

I also like an Angled Hinge with a Twistaway....and really can't imagine HHinging with it.....I mean....I can......but it's draws at best prolly....honestly haven't tried it much with anything more than a pitch tho.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

The twist away is basically full roll hitting.

Works well and its my pattern for when i "go bad."

 

[EdZ]

Does that mean that Twist Away is better used with Hitting vs. Swinging?

Yes, everything else being equal (meaning, aside from a 'fix it' move, it 'trends' towards a hitter's move)

However angled hinge swinging works nicely with it too

 

[birdie_man]

BTW Brian....

"And the winner is!" (Trevino)

...

I guess the more forward the box is the better eh.

 

[johngolf33]

Does it matter AT ALL if when using Twist-Away your club face looks shut when it is waist high in the backswing if the left wrist is flat at the Top and the clubface is square at the Top?

Sustain the Lag?

John

 

[johngolf33]

Does it matter when you start twisting away? The reason I ask is because when I look at my video my club face is facing the ball during the first half of the backswing and I was wondering if I am twisting away too early.

Sustain the Lag,

John

 

[johngolf33]

"Hitting the Box" defintely corrected the hook that I was getting with Twist Away, but now I sometimes leave it slightly to the right. Would rotating the left shoulder more around and back balance this out?

 

[johngolf33]

Now you need to "HIT THE BOX."

When I try to "Hit the Box" I feel as though I am tending to create a 4th Station of the shaft against the box. Any suggestions as how to "Hit the Box" and allow this to be an incidental in the Total Motion?

 

[ThomasTheTank]

"Hitting the Box" defintely corrected the hook that I was getting with Twist Away, but now I sometimes leave it slightly to the right. Would rotating the left shoulder more around and back balance this out?

Can you explain what hitting the box is? I have been using a twistaway with full extensor action such that I feel really extended at the top (like my left shoulder is coming out the socket) and a flat left wrist but im drawing the ball way too much .. verging on a right to left hook