Why do I hit it like an old man/15 year old girl?

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dschultz6072

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ekennedy said:
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I think you have poor sequencing in your swing. Your upper and lower body begin the DS almost simultaneously (if not the upper a bit sooner) forcing your upper body to far forward at impact. By starting your DS from the ground up (maybe a little bump of the hips), you would probably hit the ball to the right for a while until you slowed your upper body down a bit and added a bit of tilt. The difference between starting your DS with your lower body or your upper body is pretty large when it comes to generating speed.
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When you're saying bump the hips are you talking while I swing before I start down or at setup (ie draw guy setup)?
 
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Frans@France said:
spin axis?

1.47 means not on the sweetspot so carry is lost and possible gear effect either vertical or horzontal. both creating even more loss of carry.

vertical launch angle?

95mph clubspeed x 1.47 = 140mph ball speed. If you would get it at around 14 degree launch angle and with that positive Angle Of attack you will be able to have low spin. total possible carry around 230.

at 100 mpg clubspeed you will have a possible carry around 250.

Please note that those values are based on "normal" atmospheric conditions
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Yea when I catch it I can get it out there about 260 with roll. Those shots are few and far between, though. The best part is when I hit it that way I have no idea how I did it hah.
 
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dschultz6072 said:
Man...my pro has been trying to get me to not tilt. This isn't the way to go? I'm at a loss here. Yes...my miss is a steep toe shot.
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If you tilted doing what you are doing at this time you wouldn't touch the small ball before touching the big ball or you would thin it worse. JMO. Talking irons.
 
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dschultz6072 said:
When you're saying bump the hips are you talking while I swing before I start down or at setup (ie draw guy setup)?
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I was referring to your hips moving toward the target as you finish your BS pivot. You might benefit from a little squatting as well...IMO. The axis tilt would come from proper sequencing, not something you would just do...otherwise you would hit behind every shot.
 
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Just my 2 cents, in case they help

I don't necessarily agree with the "get on trackman" response. I don't think you need to over think this. So, not to argue with others, but just to offer my advice in case it helps:

You need to work on making a better backswing, with a fuller pivot, that puts you in a more athletic position that will allow you to use your lower body (and the leverage of the ground) to make a more powerful DS.

I'd recommend looking up Brian's very old, but still great flyer on the backswing. Get in the backswing position he outlines there, and you'll hit the ball further.
 
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95mph clubhead speed is not bad for an amateur but you look like you could swing faster than that based on your age,build and height.

The swing looks non dynamic.It looks like part of the body is not doing it's fair share of the work and it's your pivot.Your hips and shoulders are dead square at the point of impact.That tells me the swing is all arms.Nothing wrong with this as Manuel De La Torre teaches this but you are not going to maximise your distance potential doing this.

90% of touring pros and 100% of LD competitors will not have square hips and shoulders at impact.I will bet the guys that are bombing it past you don't either.
 
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Kevin Shields said:
Have you ever seen a form of a "step in" drill.
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Yea, of course. I never thought I would have needed to do that as I have no problem "getting off my right side". Is my problem instead I just need to learn how to get onto my right side to begin with?

ej20 said:
90% of touring pros and 100% of LD competitors will not have square hips and shoulders at impact.I will bet the guys that are bombing it past you don't either.
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Guys and gals you mean? Nope, they don't.

fronesis said:
I don't necessarily agree with the "get on trackman" response. I don't think you need to over think this. So, not to argue with others, but just to offer my advice in case it helps:

You need to work on making a better backswing, with a fuller pivot, that puts you in a more athletic position that will allow you to use your lower body (and the leverage of the ground) to make a more powerful DS.

I'd recommend looking up Brian's very old, but still great flyer on the backswing. Get in the backswing position he outlines there, and you'll hit the ball further.
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Very good. Thanks. I know my backswing doesn't really tighten up as it were. I have known that but none of the pros I have seen have tried to correct it, so I figured I'd just leave well enough alone.
 
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I know Brian says 70% of the work done with the pivot goes into moving the pivot but the guys who are putting in more pivot is still going to have a higher percentage of that "30%" that does go into moving the club.
 
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A good backswing pivot is only half the equation.There is no guarantee that a full coil wouldn't still result in an all arms downswing.I would rather have a 3/4 backswing and fully release my pivot through impact than having a Daly backswing and then pivot stall.
 
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I spent a good half hour in the back yard likely waking up the neighbors swinging the orange whip and some clubs, first using the crossing guard drill type backswing and the step in drill suggested by Kevin. I tried to go at it so hard I had to "walk a bit" a la Gary Player. I can definitely feel the difference between an all arms swing and a swing that has some power generated by a pivot. The whoosh definitely sounds much faster, and it instantly reminds me of this:


As far as I feel now, I have to do a little left heel lift and replant to get my left side going. Next range session I think I'll just tee balls up and step in through them until I feel good about it. Does that sound like a good idea?

Thanks again everyone. :)
 
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Here is my basic stock shot swing with my stock shiny part of the toe contact. Older videos but basically the same crap I've been doing all along.

 
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dschultz6072 said:
I spent a good half hour in the back yard likely waking up the neighbors swinging the orange whip and some clubs, first using the crossing guard drill type backswing and the step in drill suggested by Kevin. I tried to go at it so hard I had to "walk a bit" a la Gary Player. I can definitely feel the difference between an all arms swing and a swing that has some power generated by a pivot. The whoosh definitely sounds much faster, and it instantly reminds me of this:


As far as I feel now, I have to do a little left heel lift and replant to get my left side going. Next range session I think I'll just tee balls up and step in through them until I feel good about it. Does that sound like a good idea?

Thanks again everyone. :)
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Mancrush??
 
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