tongzilla
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The iron swings in Power Golf are the best. That print of yours show it...slight flying right elbow, less flying wedge rotation, higher hands.
Why high hands at the top?
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tigers win percentage with his flat laid off swing from 2006-2009 was 54%, his win percentage in what is considered his golden year the year 2000 was 50%. lets look at a few other factors. when tiger blew away those fields in 2000 with his distance he was hitting wedges into greens when the majority where hitting 6 irons. they then so called tiger proofed the courses lengthened holes etc, but the ironic thing was that tiger had lost that huge distance advantage there where now guys on tour that could knock it by him and alot of the guys where hitting along side him. also in those flat swing laid off yrs he under went knee surgery that was brought on by his 2000 swing, he also lost the most important person in his life his father and what we now know what he was getting up to in his private life was by no means doing his game any favours. was tigers swing in 2000 more aesthetically pleasing yes, but was it more effficient no. i was guilty of letting nostalgia cloud reality too, i thought tiger was by far a better player in 2000 and i thought his swing was much better, but i was amazed at the above mentioned stats and you cant argue with the other factors.
no it would have been the opposite. working out and keeping fit was mostly unheard of on tour before tiger, to compete with tiger players had to get stronger and get healthier, also the new advancements in technology helped most of these players gain huge amounts of distance. it made things alot tougher on tiger when he lost that big distance advantage. the advancement in technology was more of a hindrance to tiger than to most of the other players.
Oh cool, its another thread that has ended up talking about Tiger. Because we don't have enough of those round here 
I'd still like to know what Brian means by "shoulder-to-back turn difference". Clearly this is a difference you can measure somehow (60° sounds like a lot though, whatever it is you're measuring). Anyway sorry but I don't get it, what the heck is back turn?
And while I'm asking, what about this?
Please explain.
I'd still like to know what Brian means by "shoulder-to-back turn difference". Clearly this is a difference you can measure somehow (60° sounds like a lot though, whatever it is you're measuring). Anyway sorry but I don't get it, what the heck is back turn?
And while I'm asking, what about this?
Please explain.
I thought this, but surely you can't move your shoulders 60 degrees relative to your torso?!
if you give tiger and old 1 iron blade from 250 out over water to a pin tucked tight to the front edge, tiger would have no problem pulling that shot off, now ask the majority on tour to do the same and they would not pull it off, but give them a hybrid and they would have no problems. same thing with the old persimmon driver im sure tiger could carry that out there over 300 yrds, but alot of the guys on tour would struggle to carry it 260.
aaron_lohan
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The use of launch monitors to optimise spin rates and launch angles helped a lot of tour pros to get more distance and close the gap.
Oh cool, its another thread that has ended up talking about Tiger. Because we don't have enough of those round here
I'd still like to know what Brian means by "shoulder-to-back turn difference". Clearly this is a difference you can measure somehow (60° sounds like a lot though, whatever it is you're measuring). Anyway sorry but I don't get it, what the heck is back turn?
And while I'm asking, what about this?
Please explain.
sorry man your right, this tiger talk is for another thread. just thought those stats where very interesting. back to the subject. alvaro quiros hits it as long as anyone not partically high hands.
James Marshall (Hogan1953)
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Brian,
You've got us all intrigued by the science behind the "shoulder plane being too steep for the eventual sweetspot plane" theory, suppose we'll have to be patient for the reasons to come out.
From reading between the lines in this and other threads and listening to the debate in Phoenix about the rotation in the downswing not being the only source of energy generation it seems that a slightly flatter shoulder plane/slightly higher arm plane is a better combo and closer to optimum. This guy appears to be a good example:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJaTZB137wI[/media]
You've got us all intrigued by the science behind the "shoulder plane being too steep for the eventual sweetspot plane" theory, suppose we'll have to be patient for the reasons to come out.
From reading between the lines in this and other threads and listening to the debate in Phoenix about the rotation in the downswing not being the only source of energy generation it seems that a slightly flatter shoulder plane/slightly higher arm plane is a better combo and closer to optimum. This guy appears to be a good example:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJaTZB137wI[/media]
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drewyallop
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Anti Summit video. $100. On this site.
Drew
drewyallop
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You got to love this man's passion. We are going to have to run fast to keep up. I am going to enjoy the pursuit.
Drew
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