I've never seen these 'spray-on' indicators anywhere. Do you have a brand name for that, so that I can google for it?
Another option is to use a whiteboard marker and 'paint' your clubface with it. Problematic with black faced drivers though IMHO.
Without radar you are pure guessing....sigh
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Another option is to use a whiteboard marker and 'paint' your clubface with it. Problematic with black faced drivers though IMHO.
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Tough question, but i have a theory. I've always felt in a lot of cases that a lot of players would be better off hitting less balls and playing more golf if you can get yourself around a course. Range has great level lies, courses don't. Range has no consequences, courses don't. Range doesn't force you to hit an imaginative shot, courses do; etc etc. So if you have someone have an epiphany like me, that maybe beating balls without really knowing my #'s what am i solving? I'd practice my putting and my short game more which should help me make more birdies and/or save a few shots a round. So could you say I'm dependent, i guess so but is that a bad thing?
No because the reality is that just because the machine is there doesn't mean YOU still don't have to alter the path, the face, the AOA, etc. For instance i developed a swing that had little down and swung left just a tiny bit with little tilt to hit fairly straight shots. However at the expense of high delivered loft. I'm a fairly long hitter so i get away with it with long irons but not with the short irons, too much launch. I've probably tried, on my own, for the last 2 season to fix it on my own. Took me an hour on flightscope to know what i was doing wrong and try to fix it (which i did). So what did those endless buckets, dollars, and frustration give me? I mean even now, i'm working on the changes and struggling a bit with them as my other swing is grooved well so it's like i'm fixed forever. I still have practice, difference is i now know for sure what i have to practice i just don't have the radar to confirm if my practice is working
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Great answer - I like your theory! I guess we both see the issue of carrying over the radar-verified fixes into on-course situations - but I like your idea that radar lets you quickly verify what you're doing on the range, and spend more time trying to take it to the course.
How were your high-launching short irons hurting you? Were you planning a trip to Scotland? I mean, I hear there's no wind in America, right?
How were your high-launching short irons hurting you? Were you planning a trip to Scotland? I mean, I hear there's no wind in America, right?
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How do you deal with setting the units up to the target line? The machines measure in the tenths of a degree but if you align the machine up slightly off isn't it going to skew the results? Also, how do you align the golfer up exactly the same for each shot because if the golfer is off with their alignment isn't that going to skew the results?
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you align the unit using the camera build into the unit. The camera is calibrated in relation to the radar panel. The same "target" you use for the radar you explain to the student. And yes if the student has his alignment wrong then the path and face angle will be skewed however the relation between the two will not.
Jim Kobylinski
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simply distance; when you're delivering 35-36* of loft with a 7 iron the ball is going to go a whole lot more up then foward. Creates obscene distance gaps from long irons to mid/short irons.
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Can you really get the unit aligned say at 200 yards within a degree of accuracy if you picked the unit up and realigned again at the same target? I think the biggest issue would be aligning the golfer up EXACTLY the same for each shot, maybe they need to put some lasers on it and it would project lines on the ground to insure the golfer is aligned correctly. Maybe I should call Tuxen and give him the idea in exchange for a free machine.
i use this stuff, it's a lot cheaper than the markit brand. make sure you get the water-based kind. i used to spray the clubface but have recently started just spraying the back of the ball. same feedback, less mess.
dry-erase marker works too, but not as well if balls or clubface are wet at all.
just use a smear of sunscreen lotion, something most people already have in their bag
9 to 11k
Matt 4-L
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Wow, I thought they were affordable, did they take a big price hike, I was thinking the early models were in the 4-5K range?
Matt 4-L
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Any owners or users want to comment on this?
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Matt 4-L
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Good thing, you wouldn't want to be off a couple degrees!
mgranato
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I can only speak to the FS setup...
You select the target through the camera. It's done through scope like cross hairs, and is pretty accurate. Then you align were you will be hitting from (not always necessary, but doing so provides the most accurate numbers) by hitting a couple balls. Each ball's launch origin is measured within .1 degree off the designated target line. When you zero that out, you now have a dead accurate target line from ball to target. The beauty is you also have a 24" diameter circle to be within to hit your shots were the monitor will still zero out the ball's launch origin to the designated target.
Not sure if all this makes any sense, the process is kinda hard to explain without demonstrating.
You can get the older models for 5k now, but the X series start at 8 and go up to 11
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Very confident. Once it's set up, the radar is locked onto the target and will take any swing you make (within its hitting diameter) as a shot at the target. You aren't trying to line up with the machine, your focus should be at/on the target. All the club numbers recorded are taken in relation to the ball and the target.
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