Putting Rant

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I don't expect to get any sympathy or even any solution......but I have got to vent.

My putting is driving me insane!!!

It's a tale of woe worthy of a Charles Dickens novel. It all started a long time ago while playing in college. I was a decent putter when I was in my teens and 20's. Not great....but not bad. In college I managed to keep putts per round in the 28-30 range, depending on how many greens I missed. I three putted once every 33 holes or so. Not ready for prime time, but like I said.....I wasn't throwing up on my shoes.

Then Dave Pelz happened........

I went to a Pelz short game school in Austin Tx at Lakeway CC. He had just started making some big noise in the 1980's and was going to scientifically fix my putting and short game. I signed up anticipating finally being a really good putter. I bought into SBST with all my heart.....purchased a truck load of putting tracks and gadgets.......committed to serious practice.......and got worse. A LOT worse. To make matters worse, I couldn't remember how I used to putt.

I muddled along for years trying left hand low, open stance, closed stance, forward press, long putter......all with short lived success.

Finally went and saw Pat O'Brien in Dallas in 2005. He moved the grip more to the fingers, and proclaimed my stroke good enough to be a damn fine putter. Had a short lived honeymoon and then back to the normal 34-37 putts a round with at least 1 three putt a round.

I was told that Stan Utley was the roo of goo and I snatched up his book, bought his training arc, a Scotty Cameron Newport at 35.5 inches pushed 2 degrees flat, and learned to fold the elbows. Worked for awhile. I had a couple of 24 putt rounds. Slowly, the 3 putts came back and the putts per round was back at 34-36. I struggled starting the ball online since the arc was so extreme it required perfect ball position.

I was lead to Geoff Mangum's website. Bought the book, got me a short little face balanced Yes putter at 33", bent upright to 72 degrees, hung my arms straight down, and tried to let gravity rule my stroke. Couldn't do it. Couldn't hit the sweet spot of the putter 30% of the time. Total failure and I got so disgusted I picked up a belly putter. It was like an alien invention in my hands. I was WORSE inside of 10 feet than I had ever been before and everyone told me a belly putter was pure money inside of 10 feet. I decided that all my playing partners were just a bunch of liars that liked to watch me weep.

Then I was sent to Mike Shannon's webpage. The compact stroke was the salvation. Arms held tight to the torso, rock the shoulders, BAM!! In the hole.......except...it wasn't. Distance control with such a compact stroke is apparently beyond my ability.

So today....a beautiful winter day on the high plains of Texas. Crystal clear, 52 degrees, a breeze that kept falling all day until the flags hung straight down on the pins. 38 putts after hitting 15 greens. I 3 putted 4 times with one of them from 12 feet. Distance control was non existent and I couldn't start a ball on line all day. I pulled them...I blocked them. I missed them high....I missed them low. I missed them long......I missed them short. I was so frustrated I wanted to scream because it is happening more and more. The final straw was on #18. Par 5, 562 yds. Second shot all over water, 185 yds. Hit it to 15 feet. Uphill putt for eagle, two balls outside left. Missed it 2 feet right and 4 feet past. I stuck a tee in the green where I putted from....dumped all the balls in my bag next to the tee (12 balls) and proceeded to try and make the putt. 0 for 13 trys. Didn't make a single one. Only scared the hole a couple of times.

Guys.......I have never been this angry in my life. I have literally tried every method, stance, grip, and putter known to man. I have read every Rotella and Pia Nilsson book and I've even had mental training with Dr. John Pates of the European Ryder Cup training staff because I thought I might be mentally damaged. None of it has a made a long term difference in my putting.

My putting has kept me out of trying to qualify for the State Am the last couple of years and I will probably NOT try again this year. I just can't face this kind of failure in real competition. It wouldn't be so bad if I had never been a decent putter. But I remember what it felt like to be confident over a putt and feel like I was going to knock it in. I haven't had any confidence in my putting for a VERY long time and the memories of good putting are getting fainter and fainter.

There is one shining light in all this misery. I can demonstrate each teacher's method so well that my playing partners can call out the teacher's name as soon as I stroke a putt. I am a walking demo machine.
 
how do you practice your distance control?

Well......let me think.

The Pelz drill. 3 balls. tee in the ground 20 feet below the hole. another tee 20 feet above the hole. Putt 3 balls. All must finish in hole or beyond the hole. If any are short, start over. If all three either find the hole or are past the hole, move to the other side and repeat. If any of the three are short, start over at first tee. Continue putting until you get to number 10 putt, and move to the opposite side for last putt. If it's short, you start over at 0.

Putting to the other side of green. Must stop 3 balls as close to edge as possible with out touching fringe.

Lag drill. Three tees. One at 30 feet, one at 50 feet, one at 60 feet. Three balls. Start at 30 feet and lag putts to within 3 feet of cup. If you get all three within feet, move to 60 feet and repeat. If you miss the 3 foot circle, go back to 30 feet. If you make all 3 at 60 feet, move to 50 feet. then back to 30 feet.

Ladder drill. Three balls. One at 3 feet, one at 6 feet, and one at 10 feet on same line. All three must go in hole or within one foot past the hole. If not, start over at 3 feet.

Putting to hole with eyes closed. While ball is rolling to hole call "long", "short", or just right". Compare call to where ball winds up.

There are some others that I can't remember. If you have a new one, I'll try it. Heck......I'll try anything.
 
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try this

Well......let me think.

The Pelz drill. 3 balls. tee in the ground 20 feet below the hole. another tee 20 feet above the hole. Putt 3 balls. All must finish in hole or beyond the hole. If any are short, start over. If all three either find the hole or are past the hole, move to the other side and repeat. If any of the three are short, start over at first tee. Continue putting until you get to number 10 putt, and move to the opposite side for last putt. If it's short, you start over at 0.

Putting to the other side of green. Must stop 3 balls as close to edge as possible with out touching fringe.

Lag drill. Three tees. One at 30 feet, one at 50 feet, one at 60 feet. Three balls. Start at 30 feet and lag putts to within 3 feet of cup. If you get all three within feet, move to 60 feet and repeat. If you miss the 3 foot circle, go back to 30 feet. If you make all 3 at 60 feet, move to 50 feet. then back to 30 feet.

Ladder drill. Three balls. One at 3 feet, one at 6 feet, and one at 10 feet on same line. All three must go in hole or within one foot past the hole. If not, start over at 3 feet.

Putting to hole with eyes closed. While ball is rolling to hole call "long", "short", or just right". Compare call to where ball winds up.

There are some others that I can't remember. If you have a new one, I'll try it. Heck......I'll try anything.

Here's one for 6 to 12 feet and you'll need 4 coins.

Place a coin on the ground as a starting point. Lay your (35") putter down 2 times to measure out approx 6' from the starting point and place another coin. Lay the putter down 2 times again to measure out another 6' from the second coin and place a third coin.

Return to starting point and try to see how many putts you can hit inside the zone created by the second and third coin where each putt is longer than the last. For example, lets say you hit your first putt a foot past the second coin (7 feet from the starting point). Mark the ball. Return to starting point and now you have only 5 feet left of zone to hit into. Your next putt has to be longer than the first putt but shorter than the end of the zone.

Continue until you leave one short of your last putt or hit it out of the end of the zone. Tie goes to the runner. 10 is a good score. 15 is a great score.

If you can't control the difference between 6 feet and 7 feet, you cannot make putts consistently.
 
I hear ya Otto; my putting has been holding me back from some good golf too. I come to the realization that you have to have a pure putting stroke because you cannot control the distance if your not hitting the ball in the center of the putter each time. To compound it your green reading goes out the window because when you can't consistently make a good putt you have no confidence in your read and you keep second guessing yourself. I have no answer for ya, personally I am looking at Tiger's stroke and trying to emulate that but as you mentioned in your post that one of your instructors moved the putter more into the fingers interesting enough I discovered that’s what Tiger does and it really gives a good sense of distance control. I am anxious to get down to Florida this next week and see how my putting stroke is doing; practicing on the basement floor and the course are two different things.
 
Well......let me think.

The Pelz drill. 3 balls. tee in the ground 20 feet below the hole. another tee 20 feet above the hole. Putt 3 balls. All must finish in hole or beyond the hole. If any are short, start over. If all three either find the hole or are past the hole, move to the other side and repeat. If any of the three are short, start over at first tee. Continue putting until you get to number 10 putt, and move to the opposite side for last putt. If it's short, you start over at 0.

Putting to the other side of green. Must stop 3 balls as close to edge as possible with out touching fringe.

Lag drill. Three tees. One at 30 feet, one at 50 feet, one at 60 feet. Three balls. Start at 30 feet and lag putts to within 3 feet of cup. If you get all three within feet, move to 60 feet and repeat. If you miss the 3 foot circle, go back to 30 feet. If you make all 3 at 60 feet, move to 50 feet. then back to 30 feet.

Ladder drill. Three balls. One at 3 feet, one at 6 feet, and one at 10 feet on same line. All three must go in hole or within one foot past the hole. If not, start over at 3 feet.

Putting to hole with eyes closed. While ball is rolling to hole call "long", "short", or just right". Compare call to where ball winds up.

There are some others that I can't remember. If you have a new one, I'll try it. Heck......I'll try anything.

Do you do these drills regularly? And if so, can you complete them or do you struggle?
 

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Know what ? You outsmarted yourself with the guru's ideas in an effort to improve. Why not get an old Bullseye type blade putter and try to putt like some of the kids you see in the summer that can hole anything on the green? Ask yourself if they took lessons from anyone. Beyond the basics putting is all instinct. On second thought get a copy of a newer book called " Instinct Putting ".
 
if you read his post, he said he read all of rotella's and nelson's mental books.

reading books and learning theory doesnt mean you can apply a lick of it. pick a method and stick with it until you are good. putting doesnt owe you anything, thats why theres no magic bullet method that you are looking for. many people have had success with each of the methods you listed.
 
The content of what he teaches is similar to another putting instructor (which Otto has tried), although his delivery is different.

Does he know what "the other" teaches - yes
But he has more.....much more patterns than that. And a great program to help him evaluate and help the student.
 
First take a LONNNNNNGGGGGG layoff. Then go from there. Three putts happen, the problem is they have become a habit or in your head. Clear your head then start again. Good luck!
JeffS
 
"Otto",

I may have mentioned something to this effect before, but what I read from your post is that you "care" way too much! Rotella probably says it in the books you've read, but it sure sounds like you've gotten so results-oriented that anything but a "make" now equals failure from your perspective.

I've seen your stroke and I personally didn't see anything in it that would prevent you from being, at the worst, a decent putter, and professional instructors agree. The fact that you can imitate different techniques implies you have decent mechanics.

Putts per round is a deceiving stat. Guys that hit lots of greens are going to be in the 30+ putt range if they keep it around par. If you're shooting 67 then yea, you're probably in the 24 to 28 putt range (in general). 3-putts are part of the game, even for good players, and sometimes what we consider to be "makeable putts" are statistically missed more than the're made.....even in the professional ranks (where the surfaces are close to perfect and the player has a charted slope diagram of the green).

I'd like to see you play one round of golf where you measured your putting by how many putts you hit in which you simply didn't concern yourself with the result. You read the putt and make the best stroke you can in terms of speed and line with no judgement based on whether it went in or not. No "hoping you make it", no "this if for eagle", no "this could be a skin if it goes in", etc. This applies to 2-footers and 60-footers. It's tougher to do than learning a new putting stroke if you're REALLY honest with yourself, but it can be done. See if you can increase the percentage of your putts each round that you truly do this with each time you play.

I got a tip from a very good instructor and an accomplished player once regarding putting. He said "if you're not man-enough to hit a 4-foot putt while not thinking about making or missing it, then you shouldn't be trying to play at this level".

Hang in there!

Robbo
 
"Otto",

I may have mentioned something to this effect before, but what I read from your post is that you "care" way too much! Rotella probably says it in the books you've read, but it sure sounds like you've gotten so results-oriented that anything but a "make" now equals failure from your perspective.

I've seen your stroke and I personally didn't see anything in it that would prevent you from being, at the worst, a decent putter, and professional instructors agree. The fact that you can imitate different techniques implies you have decent mechanics.

Putts per round is a deceiving stat. Guys that hit lots of greens are going to be in the 30+ putt range if they keep it around par. If you're shooting 67 then yea, you're probably in the 24 to 28 putt range (in general). 3-putts are part of the game, even for good players, and sometimes what we consider to be "makeable putts" are statistically missed more than the're made.....even in the professional ranks (where the surfaces are close to perfect and the player has a charted slope diagram of the green).

I'd like to see you play one round of golf where you measured your putting by how many putts you hit in which you simply didn't concern yourself with the result. You read the putt and make the best stroke you can in terms of speed and line with no judgement based on whether it went in or not. No "hoping you make it", no "this if for eagle", no "this could be a skin if it goes in", etc. This applies to 2-footers and 60-footers. It's tougher to do than learning a new putting stroke if you're REALLY honest with yourself, but it can be done. See if you can increase the percentage of your putts each round that you truly do this with each time you play.

I got a tip from a very good instructor and an accomplished player once regarding putting. He said "if you're not man-enough to hit a 4-foot putt while not thinking about making or missing it, then you shouldn't be trying to play at this level".

Hang in there!

Robbo
This is great advice too.

I think the hardest thing about golf is you have to care and not care at the same time. What do I mean? Well if you didn't care at all you wouldn't read the putt properly and probably set up to the ball sloppy and make a careless jab at the ball. But if you care too much it's bad also like you said. So HOW does one try his best while being indifferent at the same time?? I don't know...
 
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