4 barrel hit/swing???

[6bee1dee]

quote:Originally posted by billmckinneygolf

Right-arm swinging and hitting are NOT the same..and throwing a frisbee is NOTHING like swinging a golf club (especially if you are a righty playing righty). The club weighs a fair amount more than the frisbee. And furthermore, you can use pitch basic to throw a frisbee, too.
And I don't know about you guys, but I want to know how many rounds of golf in which you've succeeded in never "adding" with your right.
I saw an amputee that could do it, but he might be the only one.
Didn't you ever hear about Homer saying that he preferred Hitting, anyway? "You want to feel like you're doing something." Thanks, Homer, for making it okay to use the right side.

My only question is how the heck to you throw a ball with a backhanded motion??? It is not an athletic move. Swinging is much closer to the pulling action of throwing a tournament (heavy) frisbee with the left arm and pivot.

Are we talking Swinging or Hitting? I think you were talking about right handed swinging- if that is hitting to you than I'm on board. I love hitting with the right arm. I Swing with the left.

Does the right arm become the center of the swing as you teach right arm swinging?

The right arm applies extensor action and is always driving forward so it is not totally enert in a Swing Stroke. When Ben Doyle talks about not adding, he is referring to a jerky motion, or some kind of addition to pressure with the hands, not the straightening or driving of the right arm with the pivot.

Yes, Homer loved Hitting- and he saw both right arm and left swinging as options. But a left arm swing is not a weak stroke unless something is wrong in with the instruction.

 

[billmckinneygolf]

By throwing with the left arm in a back-handed motion, I do mean throwing like a frisbee. It is indeed a very un-athletic motion in relation to using a pitcher's motion.
The right elbow replaces the left shoulder in r-arm swinging.
Don't get me wrong, I also love true swinging. Gregg McHatton and Ben Doyle are my mentors. But if you really want to bang the ball incredible distances, you need to have a bunch of right arm contributing. Take a look at the long drive guys.

 

[Tball88]

billmckinneygolf, can you go into more detail about your right-arm swing theory.

I am a hitter, but sometimes think a better classification would be a right arm swinger. My whole thought process is get to the position on the down swing where my right elbow is by my side and then fire that right arm into the ball. From watching video of Hogan, I think his action was all right arm fire from the waist down, I'm in the minority though, most people think he was a swinger.

 

[birdie_man]

I certain videos I can see where you're coming from....like when he hits punch irons...something different going on there.

 

[Playa_Brian]

why do some pro tennis players have better backhands than forehands?

 

[billmckinneygolf]

I'd like to see the numbers of backhand vs. forehand. I'd bet my ridiculously over-valued house in California that forehands go faster than backhands.
More importantly, I'm really impressed with all of your gusto for the theory of G.O.L.F. I wonder which among you has ever shot in the 60's in a tournament or could hit a ball 300 on a fly. Theory is great, but application is everything.
PS I still love you guys if you can't. And where are the girls in these sites. What a bunch of dorks we are! Khatib and I are going out with some hot nurses right now.

 

[billmckinneygolf]

We'll let you know later how it went. Hitting or Swinging. Maybe 4 barrels will become a classic hitter.
[8D]

 

[birdie_man]

quote:Originally posted by billmckinneygolf


More importantly, I'm really impressed with all of your gusto for the theory of G.O.L.F. I wonder which among you has ever shot in the 60's in a tournament or could hit a ball 300 on a fly. Theory is great, but application is everything.

Not yet budday. Learning.

 

[6bee1dee]

quote:Originally posted by billmckinneygolf


More importantly, I'm really impressed with all of your gusto for the theory of G.O.L.F. I wonder which among you has ever shot in the 60's in a tournament or could hit a ball 300 on a fly. Theory is great, but application is everything.
PS I still love you guys if you can't. And where are the girls in these sites. What a bunch of dorks we are! Khatib and I are going out with some hot nurses right now.

You are quite the man Bill,

I’m sure the great house and hot babes come from your three little secrets to increase power and distance that produces jaw dropping results that require less than 5 mins and no practice- just watch the tape and “Buddha Balance Secrets” are yours fast for nature firepower. Cool stuff- “It's simple, too. Easy. And utterly amazing.”

And all credit is to Homer???

Nice ads - I’m glad you are the genius "secret weapon" golf instructor.

Some of us are students- learning everyday, some of us are established players getting better everyday. Some of us will never shot better scores but will love what they learned and accomplished studying The Golfing Machine. Some even read the book.

From an ad:

“Bill is a golf pro who is loathed, despised and pretty much hated by other golf pro's. That alone should tell you something ...”

Sure does- sorry we don't shot 67's in tournaments or carry 300 yd water hazards off the tee.
I’m glad you and OHP don’t sell Homer’s name either. You may be a good instructor but ...
say the nurses must love you on the computer right now, huh?

 

[cdog]

I like Bill M's and Bobby S's vids from OHP, they explain TGM concepts visually.
From MY interpertation of Bill's rear arm throw, its like a pitcher throwing side arm or submarine, not a radial hit, and I also believe for some if not most would develope greater distances.

 

[efnef]

quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

quote:Originally posted by billmckinneygolf


More importantly, I'm really impressed with all of your gusto for the theory of G.O.L.F. I wonder which among you has ever shot in the 60's in a tournament or could hit a ball 300 on a fly. Theory is great, but application is everything.
PS I still love you guys if you can't. And where are the girls in these sites. What a bunch of dorks we are! Khatib and I are going out with some hot nurses right now.

You are quite the man Bill,

I’m sure the great house and hot babes come from your three little secrets to increase power and distance that produces jaw dropping results that require less than 5 mins and no practice- just watch the tape and “Buddha Balance Secrets” are yours fast for nature firepower. Cool stuff- “It's simple, too. Easy. And utterly amazing.”

And all credit is to Homer???

Nice ads - I’m glad you are the genius "secret weapon" golf instructor.

Some of us are students- learning everyday, some of us are established players getting better everyday. Some of us will never shot better scores but will love what they learned and accomplished studying The Golfing Machine. Some even read the book.

From an ad:

“Bill is a golf pro who is loathed, despised and pretty much hated by other golf pro's. That alone should tell you something ...”

Sure does- sorry we don't shot 67's in tournaments or carry 300 yd water hazards off the tee.
I’m glad you and OHP don’t sell Homer’s name either. You may be a good instructor but ...
say the nurses must love you on the computer right now, huh?

Come on Mike, it's not necessary to rip on the man. He's obviously being tongue in cheek. Lighten up.

 

[6bee1dee]

Did I rip him? Sorry. I just put some facts down from his tape ads and that not all of us shoot in the 60's but still enjoy TGM. Sorry if it was a rip.

 

[6bee1dee]

quote:Originally posted by cdog

I like Bill M's and Bobby S's vids from OHP, they explain TGM concepts visually.
From MY interpertation of Bill's rear arm throw, its like a pitcher throwing side arm or submarine, not a radial hit, and I also believe for some if not most would develope greater distances.

I don't see how the correct motion of the right arm (in any stroke) makes it a right arm swing.

 

[billmckinneygolf]

Oh, 6-B, you are very serious. Sorry to get your knickers in a twist.
Both Bobby and I cringe at those ads they write at OHP, but the fact of the matter is that it makes them reach a target market (many of whom buy stuff for the pleasure of returning it).
Giving Homer credit and selling his name are quite different, too. In every tape, we give credit to him, Ben and Gregg out of respect.
As you can read from some of the others' comments, they liked our tapes and were able to pick up some good application.
I am looking forward to learning something from all of you guys. Maybe at the Summitt!

 

[billmckinneygolf]

And by the way, the nurses were cute and fun and we had Mojitos. They just loved Khatib's Aussie accent and sense of humor.
I used a straight line delivery path with the Mojitos and it was purely right arm. Down and back.
6-B, I totally admire your love for the Machine. I love it, too. 23 years studying that masterpiece. Keep it up.

 

[MizunoJoe]

quote:Originally posted by billmckinneygolf

I'd like to see the numbers of backhand vs. forehand. I'd bet my ridiculously over-valued house in California that forehands go faster than backhands.
More importantly, I'm really impressed with all of your gusto for the theory of G.O.L.F. I wonder which among you has ever shot in the 60's in a tournament or could hit a ball 300 on a fly. Theory is great, but application is everything.
PS I still love you guys if you can't. And where are the girls in these sites. What a bunch of dorks we are! Khatib and I are going out with some hot nurses right now.

Let's see Bill, not only do you live in a mansion, shoot in the 60s in tournaments, and carry the ball 300 yds, but ALSO from the ohp web site -

Crippled Golfer Stuns L.A. Open Crowd By Crawling From Death Bed To Beat 110 Pro Golfers With a 67 (Using A Short Backswing)! This made possible by his "secret weapon" instructor, Bill McKinney.

It goes on to say, "And yes, he's probably the most expensive teacher you'll ever meet". That would explain the California compound.

 

[billmckinneygolf]

And last two things before I go out and spend 8 hours building G.O.L.F. games,
Other golf pros DO hate the Golfing Machine and I always stand up for it at their mis-education seminars. I ask them questions they have trouble answering. They don't hate me, though, they hate the fact that their little worlds of illusion are shaken up.
And I get a few letters and emails from every tape (except Avalanche which wasn't my best effort) from people who said they put like 40 yards on their drives and can now hit pitches better. That's what keeps me in this business.
What a powerful system we have. Thanks, Homer.

 

[Brian Manzella]

As far as the frisbee throw being un-athletic....

It is a GREAT way to explain the forward pivot of a swinger.

Never seen one better.

 

[billmckinneygolf]

That crippled golfer is Brett Massingham, who is the only person with MS to qualify for a PGA tour event. And for about 3 years, he was practically bed-ridden and weighed about 110 pounds.
I've been coaching him for years and the fact that he came back to do what he did was one of the most inspirational golf stories that year.
Advertising can get hokey, but there's always some truth in it.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Nothing hokey around here Bill....