Annika Sorenstam

[6bee1dee]

quote:Originally posted by vball4812

Interesting, Annika dominates the LPGA tour, has the swing, the stats, the records and this is all that this forum can take or make of your swing. Now if she had balls, she might get more talk.

Lighten up, people were having fun. geez. You Austin folks are in dire straits I see.

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Nobody knows how to teach this swing? Nobody has any front pic's? Like what was said, if this was a TGM man, it would be headlines.

I posted a picture I took of her swing from the front but took it off .

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Well I asked about the best and this is all she gets. What a loss.

Cheers

Victor

Best what? Try doing a search, her swing has been spoken about in the past. MAYBE just MAYBE nobody wanted to talk about her swing. You can ask but some of us don't work with the finger snapping.

 

[vball4812]

quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

quote:Originally posted by vball4812

Interesting, Annika dominates the LPGA tour, has the swing, the stats, the records and this is all that this forum can take or make of your swing. Now if she had balls, she might get more talk.

Lighten up, people were having fun. geez. You Austin folks are in dire straits I see.

quote:
Nobody knows how to teach this swing? Nobody has any front pic's? Like what was said, if this was a TGM man, it would be headlines.

I posted a picture I took of her swing from the front but took it off .

quote:

Well I asked about the best and this is all she gets. What a loss.

Cheers

Victor

Best what? Try doing a search, her swing has been spoken about in the past. MAYBE just MAYBE nobody wanted to talk about her swing. You can ask but some of us don't work with the finger snapping.

To funny, ha ha. Finger snapping? I think most just hate it that she is dominate in most all catagories.

As for Austin, that is another subject most know nothing about. Austin did what he did best. Swing the darn club best.

Like I said the balls have it, only a lot of what I see coming out of this forum is turf protecting, for what I don't know. Haven't seen any real swings dominate here yet.[|)]

Cheers my man!

Victor

 

[6bee1dee]

vball- do a search and learn. Your demands don't cut it. I notice that no forum has answered your demands, get the hint, dude?

 

[craig]

Ben Wright should comment an her swing, now that would be funny.

 

[rundmc]

I was watching her some this week during the tourney and her clinic. She has the head thing going on that everyone notices. But another thing that she does pretty much EVERYtime as in the pic posted by 6B is . . . her left wrist is flat at impact BUT her left elbow is bent. She doesn't have full extension of the left arm through the ball.

She seems to have very good extensor action on the back swing. Check out her left arm through the ball.

 

[billmckinneygolf]

Can't wait to hear 6B's anwer to this.
By the way, most of everything Mr. Kelley said was said before in some manner...except
for EXTENSOR ACTION. That might be his most unique contribution. Meanwhile, Annika, Cal Peete,
Ed Furgol, Lee Westwood, Carlos Franco and more bend their left arms considerably.

 

[billmckinneygolf]

Hey Redgoat Brady,
Do you remember me from Jr. Golf? Bobby May and I were good friends.
We played together a couple of times about 23 years ago.
You're doing a nice job. I enjoy reading your stuff.

 

[swing-geek]

Annika may have the most functional swing in golf I have ever seen. She does many things right, but the most important things I see when she swings are:

1. Watch the bill of her hat or visor. It starts level and stays that way all the way through impact. Even though she rotates before impact a bit, her hat rotates along the "bill plane", without tilting.

2. Her amount of spine tilt at impact is very small, which allows her shoulders to be extremely close the the levels they were at address. Extremely low amount of right shoulder dip for a long hitter there.

3. Number 2 allows her to fully extend her right arm at impact without having her hands fight each other for the dominant vertical level. This might well be her secret to power AND accuracy.

 

[MizunoJoe]

"her left wrist is flat at impact BUT her left elbow is bent"

That's because she doesn't believe that the left shoulder is the swing center, but is somewhere between her shoulders. Retief Goosen is another who believes that.

 

[vball4812]

quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

vball- do a search and learn. Your demands don't cut it. I notice that no forum has answered your demands, get the hint, dude?

You do the search mister bring nothing to the table dude!

swing-geek, you are right on with your statements.
"Number 2 allows her to fully extend her right arm at impact without having her hands fight each other for the dominant vertical level. This might well be her secret to power AND accuracy".

Annika has an entirely different move, much along the Mac O’grady type motion. She has perfected it better than Mac himself ever did.

I think that she is a phenomenal talent as is Michelle Wie, the 2 of them and Tiger could make any set of motions work.

All of them learned their motions as children and except for Tiger (who had a better swing way back when he came from college) who has gotten much help (most of it not really helping) have not tinkered a lot with what came naturally.

Fortunately for Michelle, David L. is content to just reinforce her natural moves and not change them.[^]

The best have great right arm extension, the backswing is not where they shine and dominate. Educated hands? NO. They have Educated arms is the better term. From the correct set-up and Educated arms, most all could finally learn to lower those high handicaps.

Got it !

Victor

 

[metallion]

Either way she just picked up her 10th victory this season...

 

[6bee1dee]

Victor you are a trip. If you don't know how to do a search, ask. I just did one- loaded with good stuff about AS. I only pointed out that since nobody gave your question the time of day- look for it - don't cry to us. I think many of us figured that any answer that wasn't 'correct' in your eyes would have ben soundly critized Victor you are a trip. If you don't know how to do a search, ask. I just did one- loaded with good stuff about AS. I only pointed out that since nobody gave your question the time of day- look for it - don't cry to us. I think many of us figured that any answer that wasn't 'correct' in your eyes would have ben soundly criticize by you. You are the reason I took the AS swing picture down. I saw you on other forums begging for AS pictures too.

As Ben Doyle says- the right arm is always driving. After an HH action the right wrist can flatten and rec0ck if you like. No big deal. And yes, MJ I would not doubt that AS likes to place her swing center off her left shoulder. She is a true E.Jones 'swing the clubhead' gal.

 

[6bee1dee]

quote:Originally posted by billmckinneygolf

Can't wait to hear 6B's anwer to this.
By the way, most of everything Mr. Kelley said was said before in some manner...except
for EXTENSOR ACTION. That might be his most unique contribution. Meanwhile, Annika, Cal Peete,
Ed Furgol, Lee Westwood, Carlos Franco and more bend their left arms considerably.

My answer: Woods, Jones, Hogan, Els, etc. LOL.


Ed Furgol and Peete had injuries. I don’t see it in Franco’s swing. I think Westwood is correcting his in his new golf life. Maybe they just apply extension to the secondary lever and not the whole arm- I don’t know.. I do know, I would not teach a bend in the left arm or I’d have to change my screen name.

Extension action and the Flying Wedges are two Homer originals. Homer would be the first to say he didn’t wake up one morning and invent this stuff. He did put it all together better than anyone before or after him.

 

[billmckinneygolf]

"LOL"? and then you said the same thing I said.
Me: "by the way, most of everything Mr. Kelley said was said before in some manner..except for Extensor Action. That might be his most unique contribution.."
You: Homer would be the first to say he didn't wake up one morning and invent this stuff. He did put it all together better than anyone before or after him.
Isn't that pretty much what I said?
Meanwhile, Annika still has a bent arm. Maybe that helps her conservation of angular mo.

 

[6bee1dee]

quote:Originally posted by billmckinneygolf

"LOL"? and then you said the same thing I said.
Me: "by the way, most of everything Mr. Kelley said was said before in some manner..except for Extensor Action. That might be his most unique contribution.."
You: Homer would be the first to say he didn't wake up one morning and invent this stuff. He did put it all together better than anyone before or after him.
Isn't that pretty much what I said?
Meanwhile, Annika still has a bent arm. Maybe that helps her conservation of angular mo.

Wasn't I agreeing, Bill hahahah.
or is my lot around here to be the pain in the azz? lol.

Pro are naturals- they can hit the ball anyway they want and still play better then the best golfer on this forum. God's gift - go figure. Maybe even He didn't even know it would be so valuable. I wouldn't teach it just because it works for them.

 

[fmlutz]

Annika seems to have a Ballard-type of golf swing with some modifications. In her book, she talks alot about kicking the right knee to start the downswing and firing the right side. Not having a straight left arm is also a JB concept. Annika also keeps her right shoulder high because she wants to rotate more instead of slide and tilt. This is also JB. Wasn't that Swedish golf institute based on Jimmy Ballard's theories? At least when it was started- I think that is why Annika swings the way she does- to me it looks a lot like JB's ideas on the swing. Jesper Parnevik also learned from Ballard or his ideas. Just my 2 cents.

Mike

 

[vball4812]

quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

Victor you are a trip. If you don't know how to do a search, ask. I just did one- loaded with good stuff about AS. I only pointed out that since nobody gave your question the time of day- look for it - don't cry to us. I think many of us figured that any answer that wasn't 'correct' in your eyes would have ben soundly critized Victor you are a trip. If you don't know how to do a search, ask. I just did one- loaded with good stuff about AS. I only pointed out that since nobody gave your question the time of day- look for it - don't cry to us. I think many of us figured that any answer that wasn't 'correct' in your eyes would have ben soundly criticize by you. You are the reason I took the AS swing picture down. I saw

you on other forums begging for AS pictures too.

As Ben Doyle says- the right arm is always driving. After an HH action the right wrist can flatten and rec0ck if you like. No big deal. And yes, MJ I would not doubt that AS likes to place her swing center off her left shoulder. She is a true E.Jones 'swing the clubhead' gal.

You are kidding me? You think I need a search? Not so my fine feathered friend. I have more knowledge and talent built into my thumb. Good grief your the reason I ask these questions, so you can learn from your mistakes. []

Good luck

Victor

 

[6bee1dee]

My dear vball- you asked a question and nobody answered it. You cried. I suggested do a search- you said no way- i'm to vucking good for that you reply. You are a dweeb.

You need not ask me or anyone on this forum questions to educate us. There is more instructional talent on this site than you will ever be part of anyway else.

Go bother the Austin folks- they seem to be in need of a leader- it could be you.

 

[rundmc]

quote:Originally posted by vball4812

Okay, Now were getting started, lets keep it going, she is that good and it would be only right that we tapp that swing. Is it better than Tigers, etc? I believe so.
Victor

What's the Vector Victor? Why do you believe Annika's move to be superior to Eldrick's?

Thanks!

R

 

[cjgolf]

quote:Originally posted by billmckinneygolf

Hey Redgoat Brady,
Do you remember me from Jr. Golf? Bobby May and I were good friends.
We played together a couple of times about 23 years ago.
You're doing a nice job. I enjoy reading your stuff.

Bill,

i dont think that was Brady who posted.

email him on:

bradyriggs@pga.com