magicmarker
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Well yeah.
I'm a 99%'er. My complaint is that I don't own one yet because it's expensive.
I'm a 99%'er. My complaint is that I don't own one yet because it's expensive.
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Michael Jacobs
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Affordable consumer models are around the corner....
Erik_K
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How much, Mike? What about training to make sure people use the information correctly?
mgranato
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The full featured LMs give you everything you could want to know within the tech's capabilities. What would be the barest of bones features you would want in an "affordable" model?
If you could only get 3 or 4 points of data for a very fair price, what would you want/need them to be?
If the full featured models start at $15,000ish, without a compromis in quality of data, what you like/expect to see in a unit for say $500?
If you could only get 3 or 4 points of data for a very fair price, what would you want/need them to be?
If the full featured models start at $15,000ish, without a compromis in quality of data, what you like/expect to see in a unit for say $500?
Timeline?
Yes you may still go for the MRI, but many times the MRI is not needed or warranted.
Good point. It's also important to note that LM's don't get it right 100% of the time, the manufactures will tell you as much. But I do see them as the golfing equivalent to the MRI in that they see and record what all of the prior technologies could not. Not perfect by any means, but on total, they are the best for removing guesswork that we have today. Light years ahead of the camera and Xray.
Agreed
Erik_K
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That's where I would defer to Brian and Mike. I think you'd need some companion DVD that perhaps gives examples, or case studies, that help golfers at various abilities. That is to say, take the high handicapper who is steep, has an open face. Using this device, what numbers give insight to a road to improvement?
However if their experience tells us that a truly custom solution is the only way to go, then a cheaper version probably does no good. You need an experienced professional to look at the data AND prescribe the right fix.
My experience with TM is rather limited and I often wonder if this technology helps the lower handicap players where video is not much help because the "big pieces" are already in place. Whereas the high handicapper who has severe path and face issues does not necessarily need an elaborate LM to spit out data.
What I am asking is are there GENERAL guidelines to lower the handicap significantly if a player is at X, Y, Z for whatever TM parameters are deemed important. Then using the device if I wanted to change one or two of the parameters, the feedback (or feelings from trying to change the numbers) might prove to be very valuable. Case in point: the last time I worked with Brian I used TM and the driver. I was astounded my how much out to the right I needed to swing. I mean it felt like I was swinging 50-60 yards right of the target but the result (if everything else was OK) was a dead straight shot.
Erik
Fantastic post, KS. I especially like how you mentioned "I work on these things totally seperate from one another".
You know you have a good pattern when you can work on one component and it improves all of the others.
I've played the best prolonged period of golf that I can remember using most, if not all, of the same thoughts.
If you get path and AoA (resultant path) and maybe where the ball starts you've got a big part of it IMO. But I'm a 99%er, so I'll defer to the owners, but only those with a brain and the ability to engage it.
mgranato
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If you get path and AoA (resultant path) and maybe where the ball starts you've got a big part of it IMO. But I'm a 99%er, so I'll defer to the owners, but only those with a brain and the ability to engage it.
Yep. Along with wifi to a phone or tablet, those 3 would be at the top of my list too.
Mike -
This is golfing porn for me. Any idea when? A couple courses for golf simulation would be great as well.
I'm looking at a cold, boring winter and need a simulator.
I remember seeing something like that in a Flightscope newsletter that they are working on a consumer model - but that was already a year ago.
Michael Jacobs
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PGA Show time would be a hopefully bet, pricing is kept quiet at the moment. The new Skills App which will be coming out shortly is a great way to set up a practice regime. Ball Flight requirements will hopefully be minimal and it will make the ultimate practice experience for all.
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