Got some Cleveland bashing going on here. Please don't associate sports failure and a round of golf in the area with the general population of the city. That is pointless, unoriginal, mean spirited, and very tiresome.
Agreed - I've been to Cleveland numerous times. Actually always had a pretty good time. Hung out at the flats quite a bit ( not sure how it is down there now - been about 10 years or so ) and was there when the Rock 'n Roll hall of fame opened. Being from the Baltimore area, I see a lot of similarities. Seems pretty typical of most big cities to me.