For Brian: Mickelson's Putting Drill

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Chris Sturgess

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People, this jackie burke thing is a drill.

No, they are not mentally weak, they are on the PGA tour! But, if it means improving to make 543 out 544, then it's an improvement on some weakness, i guess. Do that enuf times with or without lining up, u still can miss the putt. How many of you wish you could make 542 out 544 from 3 feet and in? Weak, I think not. Rather, darned impressive.

and don't think for a moment they don't work on drills to line up putts as well...

You are not very good at understanding the logic of the conversation.
 

Chris Sturgess

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When did someone boast about their IQ?

And does that Hawking quote apply to boasting about golf teaching IQ, because then you would be calling Brian a loser and he might be insulted by that.

You thinking his name is Hawkins when it is actually Hawking is not looking too good for you either.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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It's funny...everyone thinks this drill is a joke and has no merit and yet no one really knows how what the drill accomplishes. I do because brian explained it to me and this is something Phil does in tournaments.

BTW the reason he misses close putts is because he likes to jam them in the hole, if you aren't perfect they are going to lip out.
 
It's funny...everyone thinks this drill is a joke and has no merit and yet no one really knows how what the drill accomplishes. I do because brian explained it to me and this is something Phil does in tournaments.

BTW the reason he misses close putts is because he likes to jam them in the hole, if you aren't perfect they are going to lip out.

does Brian have some insider info on this drill from a Phil insider or is it his interpretation from the same info everyone else has seen?

not everyone is saying the drill is a joke, just that it is flawed.

btw, maybe he wouldn't have to "jam them in" if he read the putt and hit it with the proper speed(instead of relying on too much speed to take the break out).
 

Chris Sturgess

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Dunno who is worse, you or Deadly. You forgot to mention also that it is Stephen and not Steven.:)

Since Stephen and Steven sound exactly the same and are just alternate spellings but Hawking and Hawkins sound very different and are different names, and then to add to that Deadly was the guy pretentiously quoting him not me, I'm going to have to go with Deadly looking worse. Kind of like how you looked on the last page when you didn't understand that gimmicks are for weak minded players.:)
 

Chris Sturgess

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does Brian have some insider info on this drill from a Phil insider or is it his interpretation from the same info everyone else has seen?

not everyone is saying the drill is a joke, just that it is flawed.

btw, maybe he wouldn't have to "jam them in" if he read the putt and hit it with the proper speed(instead of relying on too much speed to take the break out).

It's just Jim being substancelessly defensive over Brian supporting the drill while since all facts and logic aren't on their side. His acting as if he has some insider secret information is the stuff of infomercials. And by stuff, I mean bs, it's a joke.
 
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Kevin Shields

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Practicing without lining up is totally dumb. This drill is a gimmick. Jack Nicklaus nor Tiger ever does that. What a joke.

I've seen Tiger practice putting without lining up countless times in person. You are so far off on this one (more than usual), it really is a joke.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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It's just Jim being substancelessly defensive over Brian supporting the drill while since all facts and logic aren't on their side. His acting as if he has some insider secret information is the stuff of infomercials. And by stuff, I mean bs, it's a joke.

No, i'm not and it's no secret information either. If you or anyone who has no idea what this drill is supposed to accomplish would watch some tournament golf they have explained what this "routine" accomplishes many times on tv.
 
I was inquiring about why he takes his practice stroke away from the line of his putt. It had something to do with the way he practices. Something about he finds a straight uphill putt and then works his way around the hole knowing the break of each putt relative to the previous putt. So in a tournament he finds the putt that would come before his real putt in the drill and makes that stroke, before stepping up to the real putt and stroking it. Hope that makes since, I believe that is what Brian said but not entirely sure.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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I was inquiring about why he takes his practice stroke away from the line of his putt. It had something to do with the way he practices. Something about he finds a straight uphill putt and then works his way around the hole knowing the break of each putt relative to the previous putt. So in a tournament he finds the putt that would come before his real putt in the drill and makes that stroke, before stepping up to the real putt and stroking it. Hope that makes since, I believe that is what Brian said but not entirely sure.

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I was inquiring about why he takes his practice stroke away from the line of his putt. It had something to do with the way he practices. Something about he finds a straight uphill putt and then works his way around the hole knowing the break of each putt relative to the previous putt. So in a tournament he finds the putt that would come before his real putt in the drill and makes that stroke, before stepping up to the real putt and stroking it. Hope that makes since, I believe that is what Brian said but not entirely sure.

They used to say that on TV alot. But, its not what Jackie Burke said in his book. And he does the same routine on straight putts also. And if he were doing this, sometimes he would have to take the practice stroke from left of the actual ball(because the real putt could break either way). In reality he only ever approaches the ball by stepping into it from the right side. So despite what the commentators used to say about finding a straight putt(which I can't remember them saying anytime recently), what Burke says and what anybody watching(and not listening) tv can see, its just a routine for confidence(the real ball is just another ball in his quest to make 100 in a row around the circle or whatever).
 

Chris Sturgess

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I've seen Tiger practice putting without lining up countless times in person. You are so far off on this one (more than usual), it really is a joke.


Tiger lining up a putt and then working on his stroke for multiple balls without lining up the same putt each time is a different subject. So is only practicing speed for lags. You're attempts to take what I say out of context are pathetic.

Tiger always reads a putt that is not a tap in from behind the ball first. So did Nicklaus. Certainly on the course. And he sure as hell hasn't done some silly practice stroke off to the side mimmicking this wheel drill. You guys are like a cult of kool aid drinkers.
 
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Chris Sturgess

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No, i'm not and it's no secret information either. If you or anyone who has no idea what this drill is supposed to accomplish would watch some tournament golf they have explained what this "routine" accomplishes many times on tv.

It's not that I don't know what the drill hopes to accomplish, it's that I'm saying it's nonsense. There is no need to put quotes around routine by the way. You guys lose a grip on reality from time to time.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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It's not that I don't know what the drill hopes to accomplish, it's that I'm saying it's nonsense. There is no need to put quotes around routine by the way. You guys lose a grip on reality from time to time.

explain why it's non sense then, it's a valid way to obtain the break of putt.
 
o my god.

i cant believe a forum full of fairly intelligent (i think :() people can bicker and argue about something so trivial as this.

its a drill ffs.

it makes phil feel confident. if it helps him hole 452 out of 454 from 3 ft or whatever the figure was, then great!! whats wrong with that?!

i think its a great way to try to simulate pressure, because you know you have to start all over again if you miss, so theres consequence rather than just hitting random putts from random distances to random holes.

and also, fgs, your hitting tht many putts from that length, how confident are you gonna be when you get on the course and have a 3 footer, knowing that you can hole 100 in a row of them?!

as well as th fact it takes the different breaks into account. im not sure im 100% keen on the idea of using the break of the previous putt to gauge the break of the next one, but different minds work differently. and if phil likes that method and it makes him hole more putts, then who are we to argue.

how many majors have you won again chris? :rolleyes:
 
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