Hogan and Project 1.68
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SteveT
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Sometimes I have to descend to the K.I.S.S. principle to be understood by lesser minds.
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SteveT
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Slicing and dicing with my brain sabre ...LOL
Virtuoso
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Well, I don't think we should lock it up. How about cupped at the top, flattens a little in the transition, stays relatively flat coming into impact, and then re-cups going through impact? That sounds like some mighty good freewheeling.
lia41985
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Lesser minds, huh? Cupping is not a scientific term and one of the reasons why you and Virtuoso are having a disagreement right now is because there isn't an understanding of what's being discussed. Rather than using terms like "cupped" why not stick with proper anatomical terms? It's science! Believe it
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SteveT
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... or stripping your gears ... and then throwing a rod ...!
Virtuoso
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Lesser minds, huh? Cupping is not a scientific term and one of the reasons why you and Virtuoso are having a disagreement right now is because there isn't an understanding of what's being discussed. Rather than using terms like "cupped" why not stick with proper anatomical terms? It's science! Believe it
"cupped" works fine for me. I'm not disagreeing as much as I'm trying to figure out where he's coming from. Steve says a lot of things with authority but will also change tracks quicker than a ninja......just curious as to why.
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SteveT
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Lesser minds, huh? Cupping is not a scientific term and one of the reasons why you and Virtuoso are having a disagreement right now is because there isn't an understanding of what's being discussed. Rather than using terms like "cupped" why not stick with proper anatomical terms? It's science! Believe it
"Cupping/cupped" is acceptable vernacular....
... it's like saying 'prick' instead of 'penis' ....
Svenster
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If I may interject with a quick question since Hogan is sorta being discussed. I'm wondering what people think about "multiple" ball positions vs. constant (e.g. to the front heel) ball position ( a la Hogan's 5 Lessons) in regard to the new release info. Is it still just whatever floats your boat or does anyone think that one or the other ball position concept would work better for a high handicapper practicing the new release?
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SteveT
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Hey ... I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about and where you're going with your twitter blurts...
Virtuoso
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So you don't agree that the sequence of the left wrist positioning I mentioned is a good way to operate the downswing?
Svenster, how dare you try and get this thread back on track when it has been well and truly jacked
great question by the way. I'd ask again in a new thread, and take out any ref to Hogan if you don't want that one to go the same way.
Steve, I'm sure I've asked you before, but have you watched Brian's 'Ideas about the release?' Because one of the 'ideas' (and I hope I'm not giving away too much) is that there ain't a whole lot of rotation at our through impact. wrist is going from palmar flexion (bowed to you) to extension (cupped!) with a whole lot of ulnar deviation (I have no idea what that is in your idiot humoring vernacular!)
I do. Because that will load your right wrist and supinate your right arm and externally rotate your shoulder and flatten the club in transition so you don't come in too steep and then stall and stand up and then straighten the right arm and wrist too soon causing one to roll the forearms to square the face with an excessive closure rate or worse yet, flip before impact.
All caused by thinking the shaft plane at address has some kind of relevance, it's precisely that picture or thought of that plane line that causes people to come in too steep with an overhand throw instead of a underhand /sidearm throw. The real plane is the ground and the clubhead rests on that plane but the shaft does not.
The trick is knowing this and how to deal with the shaft as the clubhead is impaled by it. Take the shaft out, put the clubhead in your right hand and from your golfing stance make a right arm b.s. and see how your arm will load and what your wrist will do and your shoulder, your arm will supinate and your wrist will bend back and your shoulder will externally rotate, now what will that do to your left arm and hand and shoulder and the clubshaft.
The left wrist will be cupped going back till the right arm and wrist and shoulder do their thing as described above and the left wrist will flatten or even bow the clubshaft will then flatten for a more shallow entry. Then all the Goats and worms will be safe.
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