Jack Nicklaus Swing Analysis?

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Mr Inconsistent

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Remember it was a list of people he's seen, I'm sure he's seen plenty but it's hard to see every player from every stretch of the world.

By the way, for the best mid-short iron player that nobody knows about yet I would like to submit Ryuji Imada. Check him out sometime.
 
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Brian Manzella

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A missing mention:

Most spin on short irons: Greg Norman

Best Trick shot artist of a Major Winner: Seve

Player who got the most out of ball-stiking: Bernhard Langer

Shortest Hitter for a big strong guy who swung smooth: Nick Faldo

Shortest Hitter for a big strong guy who swung fast: Nick Price

;) :D
 
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Brian Manzella said:
Most spin on short irons: Greg Norman

Best Trick shot artist of a Major Winner: Seve

Player who got the most out of ball-stiking: Bernhard Langer

Shortest Hitter for a big strong guy who swung smooth: Nick Faldo

Shortest Hitter for a big strong guy who swung fast: Nick Price

;) :D
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I haven't seen Seve, but I agree with your observations. I saw Nick Faldo at the 2000 U.S. Open and was surprised that his drives were shorter than most of the field. Nick has a sold build and must be a good 6'3" or 6'4".
 
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Jared Willerson

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Funny, Faldo and Price.....both Lead students, no wonder Michelle is getting shorter, he can't help himself.......or he cares deeply for the game and is trying his best to keep the "old classic courses" relevant to modern golf. ;)
 
Mr Inconsistent

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You guys go a little too far with the anti leadbetter sentiment, Faldo is one of the greatest players of all time, he barely ever missed a green, and Price is not far off.

Brian, can you post some video of Tom Barlett's driver swing?
 
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JohnThomas1 said:
Interesting that Norman, Seve, Langer, Faldo and Price rate no mention.
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I agree, Faldo was a better striker than Toms, the way people talk about him on here you would think he was a hacker, he won 6 MAJORS, Record Point scorer in Ryder cups (in an age where the ryder cup was competitive :)
he is a legend. Also in his prime he was not a short hitter, he certainly wasn't long but was long enough esp for someone who hit everything at 60%. He was a great worker of the ball, like Seve but watching him draw and fade the ball from 170yds in the middle of the fairway is nowhere near as dramatic as watching Seve get out of trouble. Also the best thing about Faldo is that he never choked, he was brilliant under pressure- better than anyone today who isnt called Tiger Woods.
Seems like most people on here are biased against him- im not sure why, you would never hear someone like Nicklaus, Sneed or Hogan criticise him- in fact Faldo was the only modern player that hogan liked- he specificaly asked Faldo to come and see him in 1992 for that reason.
Seems to me in life it is small people who criticise greatness- you would never hear a legend insult his game. Sorry this seems a rant but some of the things you hear on this site about Faldo are ridiculous- one guy on here said 'Faldo was an average ball striker who had his good weeks coincide with 6 majors' wtf!

Also im not a leadbetter fan but he teaches: Ernie Els, Robert Allenby, Justin Rose (for most his career)- none of these are short hitters.
 
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Faldo worship is passe. He's another guy that the game left behind... It's hard to get excited about a guy that bunted the ball around the golf course. He played smart boring gutless golf, and grinded out 6 majors.
 
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aaron_lohan said:
...leadbetter...
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Listen, Aaron, I have no personal problem with Leadbetter. I have met him and he seems like a good guy.

I am nobody, and EVERYBODY takes shots at me on EVERY OTHER web site on the net.

So, you think I am the only person to talk about how Lead took two linebackers and made them into short hitters?

He heard it so many times, he started teaching more (accumulator) lag.

I watched Jeff Sluman (about 5'8" 150) blow it by Price on every hole. Long hitter that Sluman.

I also winked after the comment. :D
 
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Nick Faldo states in his book that he decided to become a shorter hitter later in his career when he changed his swing style. He states that he initially tried to emulate Jack Nicklaus' swing style and drive his legs aggressively forward during the downswing. Then, after meeting David Leadbetter, he decided to change his swing style using Leadbetter's principles. One of the changes was to no longer drive his legs forwards, but rather to pivot to the left inside a straightening left leg. He states that he deliberately gave up length for better total body control. In other words, Nick Faldo deliberately gave up distance-maximisation, for shot accuracy, by changing his swing style and that was a conscious decision (not a swing deficiency).

Jeff.
 
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Tom Bartlett said:
Not sure about that. You may want to ask Woody-B-Dub to get the straight dope on that one.
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It is in Faldos autobiography about the meeting with Hogan, also check out 'Golf a good walk spoiled' by John Feinstein for the quote about faldo being the only modern player Hogan liked, also there is a biography of Faldo's cant remember the author off hand- might not be available in the US though- Faldos autobiography is a good read.

He might not be the most exciting but some of his best rounds were:- Faldo vs Norman 1993 Open (67 vs 64) Faldo vs Strange 95 Ryder Cup, Faldo Vs Norman 1996 Masters.

I Dont think that Jack Nicklaus at his peak was exciting but no one criticises him for that- i just think some people get excessive when they criticise Faldo. He is short now admittedly but this is mainly down to the fact that he has picked up no length from the modern equipment he pretty much hits it the same distance as he did at his peak.
 
Mr Inconsistent

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Leadbetter turned Faldo into a short hitter........and a very accurate hitter who then won 6 majors. Hitting it far is fun but there is obviously more to it than that and that is where Faldo is better than just about everyone else. Also, Faldo hit it virtually the same distance before Leadbetter so he didn't really make him shorter.

Brian, if other people are wrongly bashing you on other sites that is unfair. But what you are saying about Faldo is unfair as well.

Nick Price is about the same size as David Toms (5'10" 175) and they hit it about the same length, especially before Price got old. Linebackers by the way are generally at least 230 lbs. Sluman despite being small is actually not a short hitter by any means.
 
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