Lag
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thefuture37
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he really gets his right shoulder down the plane
Vicious Circle
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Right off the screen
birdie_man
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That's pretty incredible really. I plain do not understand.....howwwww.....one can make that work.
But I hit it plenty fine with my release anyway.
But I hit it plenty fine with my release anyway.
Hmmm...
I understand what lag is, but how do we define having 'more' or 'less' lag.
At the top of the backswing and in the first frame down, this guy is definitely in an 'unorthodox' position, and I guess we could say that he has a lot of lag.
But at the frame immediately before impact, he's lost the vast majority of that lag. Seems to me that in photos of Brian's swing, Brian has as much or more lag at this point than this guy does. And this guy certainly hits the ball with a FLW, but it's not as if he has a dramatic forward shaft lean.
I'm a wrong, or is this just hype over nothing?
Is there a difference between doing what he does at the beginning of the downswing - what one might call 'REALLY not casting it' - and having enormous lag just before and through impact?
I understand what lag is, but how do we define having 'more' or 'less' lag.
At the top of the backswing and in the first frame down, this guy is definitely in an 'unorthodox' position, and I guess we could say that he has a lot of lag.
But at the frame immediately before impact, he's lost the vast majority of that lag. Seems to me that in photos of Brian's swing, Brian has as much or more lag at this point than this guy does. And this guy certainly hits the ball with a FLW, but it's not as if he has a dramatic forward shaft lean.
I'm a wrong, or is this just hype over nothing?
Is there a difference between doing what he does at the beginning of the downswing - what one might call 'REALLY not casting it' - and having enormous lag just before and through impact?
i think he has more intial 'lag' or accumulator lag, in TGM terms, at the start of the downswing, but with that much 'angle' you probably have to release earlier, or you would never square the face up
Dariusz J.
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Look at his right elbow - "touching" his right side of his body already when it's still behind him. His wrists are very flexible (as Hogan's were) that surely helps. I wonder as well what is the SW/MOI of his stick.
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thefuture37
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Lag is stored energy. You have to let it go through impact for it to work. To hold all of your lag through impact would defeat its purpose. Also, this guy is hitting a driver with a forward ball position. There is no reason for him to try to have much forward lean or the ball wouldn't get off the ground.
detonum
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True with accumulator lag, but lag pressure should be sustained through impact.
birdie_man
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What about Jason Zuback vs. this YouTube guy...?
I know Zuback is a beast but......
(he beats the pants off all the other beasts too)
Dariuz, you nailed it, the wrists play a great part of my lag; when they are hinging and unhinging in time with my swing, I can do no wrong. If they get tense or stiff, its "Fore right!"
I get deep into the downswing without releasing but without the wrists working me through it, lag ain't gonna happen.
I get deep into the downswing without releasing but without the wrists working me through it, lag ain't gonna happen.
thefuture37
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I assumed he was talking about accumulator lag. Whenever someone just says "lag" thats what I think. Either way theres no way to know whether or not he lost lag pressure by looking at video.
Dariusz J.
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Flapro, yep, good comment.
However, I would not underestimate the elbow movement at transition - e.g. look at Hogan - his rear elbow was down and close to the body just at the beginning of the downswing. I wonder what causes it...haven't seen a good explanation of this "magic move" yet...
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However, I would not underestimate the elbow movement at transition - e.g. look at Hogan - his rear elbow was down and close to the body just at the beginning of the downswing. I wonder what causes it...haven't seen a good explanation of this "magic move" yet...
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birdie_man
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dsmith2296 said:
BTW I guess the real question is if Brian (or anyone for that matter) would produce more speed with a later release/more angle. (with all else somehow being equal)
I think mandrin may have done something on this a while back BTW.
cmartingolf
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Guys (and the occaisional gal), everyone seems to get wrapped up in the angle of the shaft vs the left arm... who cares! This guy has way more angle than JB Holmes and I'd bet my house he can't hit it within 50 yards of JB.
Pressure on the shaft can come in many forms and a huge angle from the left vs shaft can be a touchy way of getting speed much less having a consistant face at impact.
Pressure on the shaft can come in many forms and a huge angle from the left vs shaft can be a touchy way of getting speed much less having a consistant face at impact.
thefuture37
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that guy might not hit it as far as Holmes, but he sure is maximizing his potential power by having that crazy lag. then again that video guy could be a long driver. theres some young skinny kid in the LDA that has similar lag.
Jim Kobylinski
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having a lot of delay is no guarrantee to hitting it further. Brian tried to change his star girl pupil from a very early sweep release to a snap and she hit it shorter with less clubhead speed. Everyone has a hand speed that they can reach, find out how to do that and you'll hit it far.
Btw, zuback uses a sweep release ;-)
Btw, zuback uses a sweep release ;-)
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