lot of pros bend 2 degrees down on their irons, therefore hitting it down even more?
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jenhaoyen
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Maybe after a fitting your friend didn't need to change his swing 5 times
he was fitted, and still needed to hit a driver on 175 par 3.
he did hole in one though once with this driver though....
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Richie3Jack
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I think fitters needs to utilize both dynamic and static fitting and be able to explain to the buyer the reasoning behind what they are doing and the possible pitfalls down the road.
I think for the most part, standard lie angles are a good thing (we'll say standard being 61* for a 5-iron). But what most fitters I've come across do is they'll bend the lie angles 2* upright then add another 1/2" to 1" of length to the shaft. Now you're playing an effectively 4* upright club. And it's great at first because the extra length is helping you hit it further and the effectively upright angle is compensating for your poor swing. But, I think it just makes it *more* difficult to turn your swing around.
I think the clubfitters I've seen are pretty good at figuring out a type of shaft and flex for the golfer. But the lie angle fitting is very disappointing to watch.
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I think for the most part, standard lie angles are a good thing (we'll say standard being 61* for a 5-iron). But what most fitters I've come across do is they'll bend the lie angles 2* upright then add another 1/2" to 1" of length to the shaft. Now you're playing an effectively 4* upright club. And it's great at first because the extra length is helping you hit it further and the effectively upright angle is compensating for your poor swing. But, I think it just makes it *more* difficult to turn your swing around.
I think the clubfitters I've seen are pretty good at figuring out a type of shaft and flex for the golfer. But the lie angle fitting is very disappointing to watch.
3JACK
Jim Kobylinski
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shocking to me how bad some of these responses are. best response in this thread so far is cmartin. read it until it sinks in.
Jim Kobylinski
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I'm just being honest, even for a beginner getting fit for the correct lie and shaft and head is very important. Otherwise you will be fighting yourself and your swing FOREVER. For some of these posts to just shrug it off is very very bad advice.
How many shrugged it off? Like one guy the op. Give us a little more credit for having some kind of knowledge about having properly fitted clubs.
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jenhaoyen
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i don't think there is right or wrong..
it's kinda like the Chicken or the Egg?
So do you think you should just grab some clubs from your local dept. store or golf center and never have them fitted to you?
jenhaoyen
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If i'm 5 feet tall, then I would cut the shaft, if i was 7 feet tall, I would probably use longer shafts.
I would try to hit everyting Standard, grip, lie, and some forgiving clubs.
That would be for the very very first time I play till maybe the first lesson.
I mean, can you imagine getting yourself a 4 degree high bend clubs to begin, just because you slice?
dschultz6072
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Here's the deal, and I'm speaking from personal experience. Say you get your super upright clubs, yea, fine. You get your swing back on "track" and you start pulling everything left with the shorter clubs while the longer ones are going straight. Then what?
That's you, but your not the model for everyone else are you? What are forgiving clubs? one's that make your slice go away?
One other thing what is standard? Who's standard Ping, T.M. Callaway, T.A. Titliest, your standard or my standard? Who's standard do you use for shaft flex, is a regular flex from Callaway the same as Ping's?
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dschultz6072
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Already did. I'm saying that happened to me a while back. Things have since been sorted.
Yeah I figured that, I was just confirming your point as per your question of " then what", I knew you had the smarts.
Jim Kobylinski
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Most people i've seen fit, when dynamically fit, may have flatter lie angles in short irons and more upright angles in longer irons. Maybe 1-1.5* difference. It could be that you need flatter lie angles in the shorter clubs. This may not have been your issue, but it is for some.
Sometimes it is also just a preference, i know for me personally my miss is an open clubface, so i keep longer irons at a more upright angle to guard against it.
magicmarker
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get fit, and your misses will miss by less, and they will feel better too.
or don't, some people seem to play the game just to have something to frustrate them, cool by me but not my thing
a poorly fit lie angle will feel like junk, no matter how much you alter your swing to fit it, imo.
or don't, some people seem to play the game just to have something to frustrate them, cool by me but not my thing
a poorly fit lie angle will feel like junk, no matter how much you alter your swing to fit it, imo.
dschultz6072
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I'm told I crowd my short clubs, but somewhere down the line I stop doing it. I think with the 7.
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