LPGA vs. PGA releases

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Ok. So is the average LPGA player a flipper? If "yes", is the flip a fault?

What do you think the "average" male, amateur golfer should look like if his clubhead speed is closer to 95mph than 112mph?

Are LPGA players "flippers"? Often, yes.
Is it a "fault"? I can't say that it is since they hit the ball pretty pure.
Could they hit it better with more clubhead speed if they lined-up later, like the men? Yes, I think so.
 
Are LPGA players "flippers"? Often, yes.
Is it a "fault"? I can't say that it is since they hit the ball pretty pure.
Could they hit it better with more clubhead speed if they lined-up later, like the men? Yes, I think so.

I think its a strength issue, and maybe throwing it away a touch adds some height and distance?

But, I think it does decrease accuracy.

The better question is those LPGA players who are strong enough to not stall the pivot, not flip at it, are they better golfers (ie Tseng)?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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Todd

Random request but i'd like to see before i make my "guess" do you have anything from Michelle Wie? I'd like to check something out.

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Jim Kobylinski

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Leadbetter ruined swing or pre lead athletic motion?

LOL preferably pre but i don't think either matter; what i was getting at is i *think* (pure hunch) it has to do with strength to be able to get around enough in the downswing pivot to get the hands in a better spot to allow the line up to happen where the men's do. So my hunch is that they don't and they slow down sooner allowing things to catch up and pass them faster. Again PURE HUNCH.

Reason i wanted to see Wie's is because from an athletic standpoint she seemed like she might have been able to have something similar to the men's.
 
LOL preferably pre but i don't think either matter; what i was getting at is i *think* (pure hunch) it has to do with strength to be able to get around enough in the downswing pivot to get the hands in a better spot to allow the line up to happen where the men's do. So my hunch is that they don't and they slow down sooner allowing things to catch up and pass them faster. Again PURE HUNCH.

Reason i wanted to see Wie's is because from an athletic standpoint she seemed like she might have been able to have something similar to the men's.

I agree with your theory.
 
I have a slap-hinge-flippy girlie LPGA release, yet I'm a long hitter by anyone's standard. I like girls.

The ball doesn't seem to care.


I can say that I didn't get good with the driver until I got rid of my flat left wrist....
 

Dariusz J.

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are you accurate?

Slap-hinge release is way more accurate than crossover one. I am pretty much a very accurate golfer and use this type of release with lots of ground-up pivot and zero arms. Just subconscious friendly action.
BTW, the guy who Hogan considered the best from tee to green used slap-hinge release as well. There is a lot of misunderstandings concerning this type of release because of TGM jibberish and its impact on golf instruction. Glad that these dark days are over.

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Slap-hinge release is way more accurate than crossover one.
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Not a fan of either but I guess my concern is how they are being achieved, usually those crossover rolls are a result and not a cause, not sure about the slap type move having never really studied it.
 
Here's a couple of Super Heavyweights fer ya. Zuback and Sadlowski. Like all long hitters, they line-up the shaft past the left shoulder. Coincidence?

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Dariusz J.

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Not a fan of either but I guess my concern is how they are being achieved, usually those crossover rolls are a result and not a cause, not sure about the slap type move having never really studied it.

I think slap-hinge is more of a unconscious product of physics than crossover that is just a poor pivot necessity.

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Gard

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Could it be due to that the long hitters needs to line-up the club later to be able to have an upward strike with a delofted head to get their ideal launch angle and spin rate.
 
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