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At the point of impact in this position would that make the shaft more vertical (high hands) or more shallow (lower hands)? I would assume the latter, but still find this a very contorted move, at least visually.

I think we've been down this road before and obviously I just don't see it. The concensus is you're either over the top too steep or under the plane too shallow. Obviously there's a combination of the two that is possible that I just don't seem to be able to visualize.

You would be standing the shaft up more vertical. The hands are coming over the top, so the golfer stands the shaft up to shallow impact and try to get to the inside. There's some good stuff in this thread, along with a Manzella video about backing it up:

http://www.brianmanzella.com/golfin...cking-shaft-up-now-page-2-manzella-video.html
 

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At the point of impact in this position would that make the shaft more vertical (high hands) or more shallow (lower hands)? I would assume the latter, but still find this a very contorted move, at least visually.

I think we've been down this road before and obviously I just don't see it. The concensus is you're either over the top too steep or under the plane too shallow. Obviously there's a combination of the two that is possible that I just don't seem to be able to visualize.

Consensus of whom?
 
Steep and shallow are angle of attack description. Vertical and flat are plane description. You can have a vertical shaft and very shallow angle.
 
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