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Originally posted by holenone
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Originally posted by rwh
quote:Originally posted by holenone
Because Moe Grips the Club under the Heel of the Left Hand -- and not in the Cup -- and because the Left Wrist is Level -- and not Uncocked -- the Plane of the Left Arm cannot possibly be the Plane of the Clubshaft.
Teacher:
I certainly agree with you that a Grip with Club under Left Heel Pad and Level wrist precludes Left Arm on Plane with Clubshaft. Do you agree that if the Grip is in the Cup of the Left Hand that the Left Arm could be on-plane with the Clubshaft? The reason I ask is because I have the Suttie video wherein he does a freeze frame analysis showing that Moe's left arm is on the clubshaft plane. His statement on the video is that Moe swings "on a single axis", by which he was referring to the Clubshaft Plane.
Mathew or mgjordan, can you tell me how to get that Suttie freeze frame displayed on the board? It is a VHS non-digital video. I will be glad to post it so that everyone can view it.
Hi Bob,
Technically, when the Club is in the Cup of the Left Hand
or when the Left Wrist is fully Uncocked -- Zero #3 Accumulator (6-B-3-B) -- there is a Left Arm Plane. However, since these are synonymous terms, it is best to consider this alignment as Zero #3 Accumulator (7-13).
But, this clearly is
not the case in the above Address photo. It is true that Moe has
minimal #3 Accumulator -- the preferred Angle recommended by Homer Kelley for reasons I have detailed in several posts on other sites -- but there is
some...and that is all you need for Maximum Transfer Power (6-B-3-0) and, also, to negate the 'Single Axis' Theory.
In the
Follow Through (Both Arms Straight) photo recently published, there
appears to be a Left Arm Plane, but this is nothing more than than the Primary Lever Assembly -- the Left Arm and Club -- at
Full Extension. In other words, the completed Release of the #2 Power Accumulator (6-B-2-0 and 2-P) has resulted in the Left Wrist moving from its Flat,
Level and Vertical condition
at Impact to its Flat,
Uncocked and Vertical condition
post-Impact.
So, the post-Impact Full Extension of the #2 Accumulator has also Zeroed-Out #3. This In Line condition of Left Arm and Club leads some to conclude erroneously that the Left Arm and Sweet Spot have been adhering to the same Inclined Plane throughout the Stroke. However, such is not the case. If this 'In Line' condition of the Golfer's Flail -- Angular Momentum (Phase Two of the
Law of the Flail per 2-K) -- was actually achieved at
Impact, the result would be an unstressed Clubshaft and a very soft shot (2-P). And this obviously is not happening with Moe.
In the
Release photo (also shown elsewhere on this site), the Right Forearm is beautifully On Plane, but the Left Arm is clearly above this Plane. This is the precision alignment of the Flying Wedges Assembly (6-B-3-0-1) when #3 Accumulator is present. The commercial video I have of Moe's swing clearly reveals this relationship wherein the Left Arm
cannot adhere to the Sweet Spot Plane. Therefore, throughout the Release Interval, the Club describes an Arc
around the Hands (when related to the Left Arm) during the Clubhead Overtaking of the Hands (the #3 Accumulator Roll). Simultaneously, it moves
On Plane with the Right Forearm. A Down-The-Line
Impact photo would illustrate this point, and if someone would put one up, I'd appreciate it.
So, until the Suttie analysis is posted, I can only conclude that (a) selected frames of reference were used that gave the
illusion of the 'Single Plane' for the Left Arm, Right Forearm and Sweet Spot; and that (b) an inaccurate explanation reinforced the illusion.
