For those keeping track, the only argument Dariusz has ever lost was against himself! Through sheer attrition he was the only one left willing to both listen to and refute his own arguments.
FYI Dariusz, just being the loudest doesn't make you the smartest.
You might think I am the loudest only because I am surrounded by opponents with NO VALID ARGUMENTS, while these who think similarily prefer to remain silent. I am not a person who's going to be quiet by insane arguments.
Probably just a shade over your bodyweight... which, odd as it may seem, still doesn't appear high enough to enable me to understand the correlation between said IQ and Jack's public musings about his peers as empirical ballstriking data.
Please sir, show me what i am missing.
What you're missing is answering the following question -
explicite - how one can say Nicklaus is humble when he answers
ad hoc "no, no -- easily Hogan" for the question "Do you think Woods is the best ballstriker ever ?". Usually, every sane person answers what he really thinks. Think, then respond.
Dariusz,
It is way past getting old.
What's the point of making your forever unprovable point forever?
Well, and what's the point of even more unprovable points that are NOT SUPPORTED by historical facts ? Such as widely known quotes of the greats ? Answer this, Brian. I am at least, supported by such facts.
Hogan had a great swing but it wasn't perfect.He had a hook problem which he fixed with a weak grip and perhaps some other "opening" components.A weak grip and other opening components can wreck the average player.He also worked on his game harder than anyone in history bar perhaps Moe Norman which explains their consistency.Hogan said himself that he outworked his opponents and that he loved to practice anyway.
Anyone hanging on to Hogan to sell their theories should be ashamed of themselves.
Yes, but the point is not who outworked who, but who's the best ballstriker. What you said is true, Hogan did not have the best natural swing, but he worked his ass to have such. He himself admitted many times that Snead had much better base, i.e. natural swing. The point is that Snead, with his best natural swing, couldn't match Hogan in ballstriking art.
Dariusz,
Come on, stick to your main overall point. You believe Macro scale setups and motions can be optimized and Hogan did those best in your opinion. His being a great ball striker is a secondary measure. Some day you (or others) may find a few other golfers with GREAT macro scale setups and motions, but who's ball striking or scoring is "poor" by comparison to the field. Making or insisting that BH is some Macro scale AND performance god seems to be forcing "extra" luster on the Macro side. The correlation between the two is probably not high as you might think, and the measure of either but particularly the second has some subjective components.
I said many times that I do care only about his post-secret swing. Yes, I agree that his post-secret motion was a compensation to be able to get rid of his hooks, but the guy found the method. Opposite to such Tigers and other superb players (not ballstrikers); the very Woods admitted, Hogan and Moe were the only ones who owned their swings. Was he also "humble" ?
Cheers
