My new Plane Board

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Todd Dugan

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I had a guy put together a simple Plane Board for me. It's adjustable for different vertical angles and works nicely. It's designed to be just long enough for the shaft to adhere to the board to 45* on either side of vertical. I'd recommend one for anybody and it's a bit of a shocker that there is no commercially available adjustable plane board like this. Here's a vid of me making a stroke with the putter.
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SteveT

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How do you intend on carrying that thing for a round of golf..??!!! :eek:

Seriously, what does that board support do for your putting stroke, other than telling you the lie of your putter shaft?

These stroking restraint gizmos are quite useless for repetitive practice, because once removed, your neuro-muscular system becomes confused and addictive to that crutch.

The putting stroke is so physically simple because your hands only move about half the distance of the putter head. Just think, you can't control moving your hands a very few inches to pop a ball and you seem to need a restraint crutch to guide your putter head?? Now that's pathetic ..!!!!


BTW ... if you swing your putter too far back you will be arcing your stroke .... :eek:
 
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Bell812

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That plane board is probably easier to carry around than your ego and that huge chip on your shoulder. I'm just saying....
 
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SteveT said:
Just think, you can't control moving your hands a very few inches to pop a ball and you seem to need a restraint crutch to guide your putter head?? Now that's pathetic ..!!!!
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SteveT... it is one thing to offer advice for someone.. but seriously you don't need to flat out rude to the people participating in this forum. Please just try to tone it down a bit. Offer advice without the rudeness.


Seeing as it is so hard to feel whether or not you are on the right path I actually like the plane board for checking every now and then.
 
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SteveT

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ffejeff224 said:
SteveT... it is one thing to offer advice for someone.. but seriously you don't need to flat out rude to the people participating in this forum. Please just try to tone it down a bit. Offer advice without the rudeness.
Seeing as it is so hard to feel whether or not you are on the right path I actually like the plane board for checking every now and then.
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I just think a plane board is rubbish and I explained why ... sometimes the truth must hurt to get it through ...!!!

And this plane board is the wrong path because it is a supporting restraint that becomes a crutch ... and I suspect Geoff Mangum will back me up on that. Go ask him on his forum Geoff Mangum Putting Lessons and Clinics
 
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ScottRob

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It is helpful to see what a workable path looks like. A lot of folks swing the putter away from their bodies through the ball and it would help them to see how the putter works back up and in again. Plus you are going to make some of the purest strokes of your life...which never hurts to see, right? I use an old-school "Homer-rail":D
 
Todd Dugan

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The benefits of a plane board are well documented by Brian, I believe. I'm sure he or his staff can expand on that. The board is not just for putting, but for all swings. A putt is just a mini golf swing. You can't really hit full shots with it, obviously. It's as much for studying the geometry of a swing on a plane as anything. A plane, by definition, is straight and unwavering. I think there was a book written about this concept back in the 60's. Had a yellow cover or something ;)
 
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Plane boards are rubbish because there are no planes in the golf swing ... only swing paths.

If you want to concoct a 'swing plane' at Address, go ahead ... but you cannot perceive any such plane when you are swinging a golf club. An outside observer like a qualified teacher, can see an Address swing plane benchmark and can track your swing on video to compare to this swing plane ... but the golfer cannot sense any swing plane .. only their SWING PATH.

I will debate BManz, Homerites, anybody on that issue. The so-called swing plane at Address can be a diagnostic tool for teachers, but not for golfers executing a golf swing.


BTW ... if you want a putting stroke restraint, just use 2 feet of 2 x 4 piece of lumber and then you will be SBST stroking.
 
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Todd Dugan said:
The benefits of a plane board are well documented by Brian, I believe. I'm sure he or his staff can expand on that. The board is not just for putting, but for all swings. A putt is just a mini golf swing. You can't really hit full shots with it, obviously. It's as much for studying the geometry of a swing on a plane as anything. A plane, by definition, is straight and unwavering. I think there was a book written about this concept back in the 60's. Had a yellow cover or something ;)
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I recall that Brian endorsed "the sheriff" due to his dislike of putting plane boards.
 
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There are many putting training devices on the market. My reaction, after looking at the clip several times, is that it has the potential to create an un-natural stroke. Looks like you are already sort of shoving the head down the plywood. The heel of the putter is going to create friction as it slides along the plywood and your stroke will have to overcome it. As somebody else already said, why not just put down a 2 x 4?

I recall watching an interview with Geoff Mangum, The Putting Zone, where he was asked his opinion about the
statement,"Putting is just a mini-golf swing". He disagrees strongly, and explained his reasoning at length.
He flat out knows putting. Eccentric and obsessed with putting for years.

I understand using it for instruction, but don't really see how it's useful as a training aid. Maybe that's why
they aren't on the market.

Just my opinion. No offense meant. Hope it works for you.
 
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well, i think it depends whether the user finds it helpful, for whatever reasons.

for instance, some people take the putter way inside and then loop it outside,,,or, take it way outside and then loop it inside. practicing on this device imo may give some people a better idea of not to loop excessively (since this plane board will allow zero degree of loop). but is it an over-correction?

people may say, well, brian uses the blue wedge board in his videos so others can and may use boards as well. that to me is too simplistic.

look at brian's blue board. how tall is it? how long is it? his blue board serves a purpose for its size and dimension. in other words, to have his blue plane extended up 3 feet and wide 3 feet may not serve his purpose.

so the question on this putting board is that as long as it seems to be,,,what kind of purpose does it serve? does this board groove a short putt as well as a long putt? if someone finds this plane grooved straight back and through putt good for a 3 footer,,should the same plane be applied for a 30 footer? i just don't know.
 
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mb6606 said:
I recall that Brian endorsed "the sheriff" due to his dislike of putting plane boards.
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The main problem with putting plane boards is that they will groove a stroke slightly to the inside of the plane being used (due to the inside resistance). Be that as it may, I own a Sheriff and have gone back to using a plane board for now.
 
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softconsult said:
The heel of the putter is going to create friction as it slides along the plywood and your stroke will have to overcome it.
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I'm not sure what you mean by this.

As somebody else already said, why not just put down a 2 x 4?
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That will create a stroke with a reverse roll (unless you setup really bent over and move the shoulders in a vertical plane).

I understand using it for instruction, but don't really see how it's useful as a training aid. Maybe that's why
they aren't on the market.
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There are many putting plane boards on the market, including an adjustable model which I mentioned earlier.
 
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softconsult

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After reading Looking to Learns post, I realize that I absolutely could be all wet on this topic.

Can't remember every actually using a Putting aide, and accept that there are Plane boards on the market.

What I meant by using is 2 x 4 was simply as a visual reference with the putter not actually touching the wood.

I'm more than willing to admit my oop's.
 
Todd Dugan

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I'm fairly astounded by the ignorance displayed in the posts regarding the concept of golf strokes on an inclined plane. I mean, do we really need to explain the benefits of an "on-plane" stroke here????? on the Brian Manzella forum????????
Wow. I figured this crowd would get it right away. Guess you'll have to wait for the book ;)
 
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