Return the shaft to its address position at impact?
- Thread starter natep
- Start date
- Status
I reckon it's meaningless.More pro golfers than not have the shaft above the address position at impact so it's hardly an imperative.The guys that do return it to the same position don't do it by design.It just happened to be part of their pattern naturally.Trying to incorporate this into your own pattern could be fraught with danger.
Why not rephrase the question as to whether or not there is any merit of the club coming into the ball flat, not coming in at the same at address since address set up varies widely.
Its not an imperative, but is it more than coincidence that that the supposed greatest strikers came in flat? Hogan, Nelson, Snead, Knudson, and Trevino.
Its not an imperative, but is it more than coincidence that that the supposed greatest strikers came in flat? Hogan, Nelson, Snead, Knudson, and Trevino.
Dariusz J.
New member
Exactly. It is more than coincidence. Combine low plane magic with EEP and you're home.
Cheers
It looks pretty planed in this analysis.Go to 3:25.
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ma84i1Ok3I0?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ma84i1Ok3I0?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
Here is Mac O'Grady.He sets up with low hands and swings on the so called low elbow plane but he still comes way,way above his setup plane.
If you want a chance to get "planed" then you will need to first setup with high hands and down cocked wrists.
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/X8pXQxQD1YM?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/X8pXQxQD1YM?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
If you want a chance to get "planed" then you will need to first setup with high hands and down cocked wrists.
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/X8pXQxQD1YM?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/X8pXQxQD1YM?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
Dariusz J.
New member
Yes, I do. Give me an example of low plane golfers who achieve elbow plane early in the downswing and return much higher with their handle at impact comparing to address. Please.
Cheers
Here's another one Dariusz.
<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Eq85IzLhkv8?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Eq85IzLhkv8?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>
<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Eq85IzLhkv8?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Eq85IzLhkv8?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cTuTrpWCZhU?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cTuTrpWCZhU?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/bVuNqHLgacI?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/bVuNqHLgacI?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
Who really cares about address whether hands are high or low. I would say that Mac O'Grady came into impact quite low even if the handle was above his address position.
I realize many great golfers have come into impact with the handle high, but the elite strikers seem to have come in with the handle low. Curious to see what Project 1.68 has to say about this, but it surely has to be more than coincidence.
Others: Cotton, B.. Jones, De Vicenzo, even Jimmy Bruen
I realize many great golfers have come into impact with the handle high, but the elite strikers seem to have come in with the handle low. Curious to see what Project 1.68 has to say about this, but it surely has to be more than coincidence.
Others: Cotton, B.. Jones, De Vicenzo, even Jimmy Bruen
Dariusz J.
New member
OK, you're right. Low plane and EEP are not sufficient conditions. How hands are set at address seems to matter a lot. I haven't thought about it.
Cheers
Cheers
So now you are moving the goal posts and saying it is coming into impact low that is desirable.
If you care to read the heading of the thread,it says "return the shaft to it's address position at impact".I am purely addressing this issue even if you don't care.
I shouldn't have said it had nothing to do with the elbow plane.You still need to swing on the elbow plane together with highish hands at setup.
- Status