Richie3Jack on Tiger's Knee
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mjstrong
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I don't think that Tiger's fitness routine is designed to increase his strength for speed purposes. I think he's increased his strength/size to help stabilize his hyper-flexibility. I would guess that, as a skinny kid, he fought over-swinging and probably had his body segments almost turning "too freely." His training regime may have been designed to help stabilize those segments so that he had more control over them; keep his flexibility under control.
Just an opinion I always had on his increasing size...
Just an opinion I always had on his increasing size...
One reason that was stated by both he and Butch for getting stronger was to be able to hit certain types of shots that he wasn't strong enough to hit. The reasons you stated in your post would make a lot of sense as well, considering the guy was nicknamed Gumby by some of the tour pros.
It seems to work both ways. Isn't KJ Choi the most prolific weightlifter on tour? Not sure of his injury profile. Tiger's pal Roger Federer has had a fantastic career virtually free of injury - amazing considering the punishment he has submitted his body to since a young age. Not sure how he trains but has never looked like the weightlifter type.
Likely closer to the truth than the blog post.
Jack was a better athlete than Tiger. He had a basketball scholarship, as well as a golf scholarship at Ohio State. Tiger could have been a flagpole in college. But like the rest of us they all begun to fill out.
self-mastery
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Tiger has never been that muscular! Only sedentary golfers consider Tiger or Sam Snead as 'pumped up'. Tiger looks like ANY skinny dude that started to put on muscle mass. I can understand that compared to the slight build of most golfers, he might be consider a muscular freak, but throw him in a football locker room or on a basketball court and you will see how unspectacular his physique is.
I don't think Jack was a better athlete than Tiger. Jack received a basketball scholarship back in the short shorts days of basketball when athleticism wasn't the preeminent attribute needed to play the game.
I don't think Jack was a better athlete than Tiger. Jack received a basketball scholarship back in the short shorts days of basketball when athleticism wasn't the preeminent attribute needed to play the game.
mjstrong
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I generally subscribe to Ocham's Razr (he may have been sponsored by Callaway), and believe that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In my opinion, Tiger has never used steroids because he hasn't needed to; he didn't need to use to get the body he's got now. He also would have researched the topic ahead of time, and probably found out that there wasn't really a strong connection between strength/muscle mass and quality of golf.
Now, if his character in the Tiger Woods video games were bulked up and thicker-looking, then that might show a little insight into the mind of a man with a skinny-person's complex.
But, I don't think that's the case.
Now, if his character in the Tiger Woods video games were bulked up and thicker-looking, then that might show a little insight into the mind of a man with a skinny-person's complex.
But, I don't think that's the case.Have you guys considered that he might have wanted a more muscular body for his other hobby, nailing chicks?
trickyric67
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Back in the days of Walt Frazier, Wilt Chamberlain,Julius Erving, Bill Russell,Elgin Baylor, John Havlicek, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West Rick Barry and wussy's like that?
trickyric67
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Jack is 5'10" at the age of 70 was probably around 6 or 6'1 in 1960. 99% of scholarship basketball players don't make the NBA but those were the players at the time of the "short shorts" era. BTW Derrick Rose is 6'2". I just hate it when the young un's diss the greats of the past.Ha, a 5'8" "big boned" Jack had NO CHANCE of being anywhere close to the names on that list. Dollars to donuts that Jack wouldn't have seen the court with anything less than :45 left in the game.
BTW it doesn't look like Tiger will break Jacks majors record now, interesting how history is harder to make than it is to dismiss.
mgranato
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Our school played against his kid's school back in SoFL, and he was great about being there to see his boys play. What struck me most about him was how small he was, and I don't consider 6'+ small. If he was ever 6'1" it was with nails on while standing on the yellow pages.
You left George Mikan off your list (I used to hate doin' his drill)
You left George Mikan off your list
(I used to hate doin' his drill)
self-mastery
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MEH.... How many 6'2" guards could dunk in the late 60's and 70's? My guess is Jack could probably shoot well enough to play mediocre college hoops in that era, but nothing more. Golf fans are always trying to create super athletes out of lightweights. What is the major argument against Wilt's dominance? ... His competition or lack there of.
Derrick Rose and Jack in the same sentence.... SMH.
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LOL
That's why my buddy says he spends so much time doing squat thrusts... Something about an athletic stroke
trickyric67
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what about 5'3" Mugsy bouges or 5'7" spud webb?
my point is simply that Jack was good enough to be a scholarship basketball player at a D1 school which makes him a heck of an athlete. Tiger was a golfer who was never know to play any other sports. Jack was also a varsity football player and tennis. His father was a semi-pro football player and his grandson was just signed by FSU as the top recruited tight end in the country. This is a family of athletes. Jack was a very solidly built guy.
BTW Tiger Woods and Derrick Rose are the same height and weight for what it is worth, as well as the same height and weight of Dione Sanders when he played and I don't think Tiger can dunk either
my point is simply that Jack was good enough to be a scholarship basketball player at a D1 school which makes him a heck of an athlete. Tiger was a golfer who was never know to play any other sports. Jack was also a varsity football player and tennis. His father was a semi-pro football player and his grandson was just signed by FSU as the top recruited tight end in the country. This is a family of athletes. Jack was a very solidly built guy.
BTW Tiger Woods and Derrick Rose are the same height and weight for what it is worth, as well as the same height and weight of Dione Sanders when he played and I don't think Tiger can dunk either
faux_maestro
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You do know that Jack was offered a basketball scholarship to OSU in the era of Jerry Lucas, John Havlicek, Bob Knight among others that won one national championship and then lost in the next two championship games, right? Mediocre college hoops? Sorry, gotta stick up for my Buckeyes.
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My point is that an athletic scholarship back in the 1960's short shorts era of basketball does little to prove that Jack is a better athlete than Woods. That was before the super athletes took over the game. Some of you are misunderstanding my height argument. Yes, there have been some under 6ft dunkers in the NBA, but not many. The intention of bringing up height is to show how athletic modern players are. There are tons of 6ft point guards slamming it down, something you didn't see 20, 30, 40 years ago in the game. In essence, 1960's basketball scholarship = short shorts, jump shots, and good fundamentals. What it doesn't represent is D. Rose style modern bball athleticism from smaller players.
Mediocre AS IN HIS ABILITY TO PLAY BASKETBALL, not OSU's program. Any 1960 team would be consider mediocre by today's standard. I'm quite sure that today's standard will be considered not up to par in 40 years....
Mediocre AS IN HIS ABILITY TO PLAY BASKETBALL, not OSU's program. Any 1960 team would be consider mediocre by today's standard. I'm quite sure that today's standard will be considered not up to par in 40 years....
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