Richie3Jack on Tiger's Knee

[wulsy]

Height is clearly an advantage in basketball. Not necessarly in golf.

The human body has changed so much in last 40 years making the size comparison irrelevant. Jack was, for a "sportsman" in the 60s, an average sized guy maybe just reaching 6'0. Now average sized sportsmen are about 6'3. Heck, my 14 year old son is bigger than Jack! And Jack was known as "big Jack". Times have changed, so the comparison is a total waste of time.

 

[trickyric67]

My point is that an athletic scholarship back in the 1960's short shorts era of basketball does little to prove that Jack is a better athlete than Woods. That was before the super athletes took over the game. Some of you are misunderstanding my height argument. Yes, there have been some under 6ft dunkers in the NBA, but not many. The intention of bringing up height is to show how athletic modern players are. There are tons of 6ft point guards slamming it down, something you didn't see 20, 30, 40 years ago in the game. In essence, 1960's basketball scholarship = short shorts, jump shots, and good fundamentals. What it doesn't represent is D. Rose
style modern bball athleticism from smaller players.

Mediocre AS IN HIS ABILITY TO PLAY BASKETBALL, not OSU's program. Any 1960 team would be consider mediocre by today's standard. I'm quite sure that today's standard will be considered not up to par in 40 years....

So I guess, you don't think that Reggie Jackson, Pete Rose, 100 mile an hour Nolan Ryan, Mike Schmidt, Rich Gossage or Dr J could hold their own today? Do you not think that Jim Brown could have played today? he was 6'2" and 232. I don't think there have ever been better big men than Wilt and Kareem at 7'2" and Magic could have played with anyone.
your points are opinions that dismiss physical similarities of the star athletes from both era's, just the standard musing of younger people who didn't see the dominance of these great athletes so you right them off. it is oh so common for younger people to do the "our generation is the best" thing and oh so empty of fact or truth. Jack won majors in the 60's,70's and late 80's. He is an athlete and as far as mentioning Jack in the same sentence as Derrick Rose the comparison of the two was for their height relative to being able to compete and not their skill in the game of basketball, I would gladly give give Derrick a stroke a hole against Jack and 2 on the par fives and what that says about anything is as empty as you misinterpretation of my point as well.

 

[trickyric67]

Height is clearly an advantage in basketball. Not necessarly in golf.

The human body has changed so much in last 40 years making the size comparison irrelevant. Jack was, for a "sportsman" in the 60s, an average sized guy maybe just reaching 6'0. Now average sized sportsmen are about 6'3. Heck, my 14 year old son is bigger than Jack! And Jack was known as "big Jack". Times have changed, so the comparison is a total waste of time.

Wulsy,
Jack was know as big Jack because of his prolific drives and his athletic build compared to other golfers the same as Big John Daly who is not very big at all, not football players or Basketball stars. Hale Irwin was also an all big 8 defensive back and at the time the same size as Dione Sanders. Not the same talent level but he went onto golf and not the NFL. if you have never stood at the ropes and seen these men within 10 feet of you back when they were playing you can't appreciate that they were not small men, even by todays standards.
BTW
the average height difference from 1960 to 2006 was 1 inch but we are 33 pounds fatter today

 

[Lifter]

When I was your age I walked uphill to school both ways.

 

[mgranato]

Ha, this thing has gotten off the rails.

Can't we all agree that anyone born pre 1965 can't hold the jock of anyone born since, athletically speaking of course.

 

[trickyric67]

Ha, this thing has gotten off the rails.

Can't we all agree that anyone born pre 1965 can't hold the jock of anyone born since, athletically speaking of course.

answer NO!
and you just dissed Bernard Hopkins who won the WBC light heavyweight title last week, bet he would kick anyone's ass today.....oops he already did

 

[mgranato]

You're slipping. BH was not born pre '65.

 

[faux_maestro]

My point is that an athletic scholarship back in the 1960's short shorts era of basketball does little to prove that Jack is a better athlete than Woods. That was before the super athletes took over the game. Some of you are misunderstanding my height argument. Yes, there have been some under 6ft dunkers in the NBA, but not many. The intention of bringing up height is to show how athletic modern players are. There are tons of 6ft point guards slamming it down, something you didn't see 20, 30, 40 years ago in the game. In essence, 1960's basketball scholarship = short shorts, jump shots, and good fundamentals. What it doesn't represent is D. Rose style modern bball athleticism from smaller players.

Mediocre AS IN HIS ABILITY TO PLAY BASKETBALL, not OSU's program. Any 1960 team would be consider mediocre by today's standard. I'm quite sure that today's standard will be considered not up to par in 40 years....

1960's teams would seem mediocre by today's standards. I misunderstood what you meant there I guess. I wouldn't argue that Jack was a better athlete than Tiger BUT I think compared to his peers Jack was better than people give him credit for. Probably due to the potbelley Jack had thru the '60's. I can completely identify with that!

 

[faux_maestro]

Ha, this thing has gotten off the rails.

Can't we all agree that anyone born pre 1965 can't hold the jock of anyone born since, athletically speaking of course.

Like I said on another site: Obviously golf (and athletic ability) were invented in 1997. HELLO WORLD!

 

[trickyric67]

Like I said on another site: Obviously golf (and athletic ability) were invented in 1997. HELLO WORLD!

A big thumbs up!
and sorry for being off by a few months, I guess Ali, Frazier, Foreman, sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler were inferior too
Did I mention Michael Jordan?