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[DCgolf]

"PGA Professional means DF twat who coughs up his subscription every year and attend the minimum number of scaminars".

If you looked up sterotyping in the dictionary, you might find this quote. I sir am a PGA Professional, as is Brian Manzella to the best of my knowlege, and am proud of my association with this organization. And I certainly do not consider myself a "DF Twat" however inarticulate that expression may be, not does Brian I'm sure. SOME of us are dedicated to this craft and have spent our lives in pursuit of truth to become better at it. NO MATTER WHAT ORGANIZATION WE ARE PART OF.

 

[art]

Art,

ThanK you for all of the information you have shared from your research.

I may have missed (in all the threads you have been a part of) some of the examples of highly visible tour players which utilize the "bumpy back, keep it back" technique. Do you have some players that come to mind (I do)?

Thanks in advance,

Lindsey

Dear Lindsey,

I have only seen an artifact of 'Bumpy back... in a video of Nick Watney at Riviera in February of this year, and generously presented on this site by a Manzella follower. The only other resemblance of this right hip back was a teaching video, also mentioned on this site and 'coincidentally' appeared a few weeks after I posted the suggestion to try to get a little feel for it's worth in the teaching AND playing communities.

As background, and as I have mentioned in several of my earlier posts, I uncovered the 'science' of 'Bumpy back, keep it back' in 2007, and made a presentation to the folks at The Titleist Performance Institute (TPI) in December of that year. The pieces of the 'dynamic balance and stability' puzzle came together early that year as I combined the findings of Dr. Steve Nesbitt, and whatever data I could get fron Dan Goldstein and his "Dynamic Balance System", including a few tests on this equipment locally, with my 47 year career in the fields of missile and spacecraft stability and control. The 'systems' are amazingly similar (and less complex) to the human body swinging a golf club, and this intrigued me to draw some useful conclusions for golfers, and more importantly for their teachers..

Fast forward to the end of last year after having met Brian, Jon Hardesty, Billy McKinney and Chris Como and tried out the expected positive attributes of lower body dynamic balance using FlightScope, and Brians Trackman. The results were as previously posted with distance increases up to 10% and dispersion reductions of up to 50% while only working on the lower body.

The first 'public' exposure was on this site earlier this year, and much to my satisfaction, the positive results continue to generate an incredible success rate, even considering the fact that ALL the communication, with the exception of Brian , Jon etc. was done with ONLY the written word.

The results I am having with folks in person, remains 100% which certainly indicates to me that the probability of PROVING this hypothesis of the need to enhance the lower body dynamic balance and stability of most/all golfers can with some 'structured testing' become 'golf truth', the passion which drives me every day.

Sorry for the single professional golfer who seemed to have tried it, I have been active for more than a year communicating my detailed findings to teachers of a few touring professionals, but have not AS YET seen a discernible 'Bumpy back, keep it back' committed user.

Best regards,
art

 

[Lindsey Newman]

Thank you Art for the reply.

I understand there is a difference between full implementation and not. Is there possibly an example of someone who possibly is not setting up with "full" BBKIB, but using the principle dynamically during the swing?

Thanks again

 

[art]

Thank you Art for the reply.

I understand there is a difference between full implementation and not. Is there possibly an example of someone who possibly is not setting up with "full" BBKIB, but using the principle dynamically during the swing?

Thanks again

Dear Lindsey,

I don't know that either, but as I am sure you realize, THIS MANZELLA site is 'MONITORED' by many tour teaching professionals that may have, or are implementing some/all of this in a manner not yet obvious to me.

I am awaiting an answer from your first post, ("I do") that YOU knew of some touring pros that you thought had picked this up and were using it. Is this the case ? If so, could you let me know who they are, as the lower body dynamic balance and stability is just the FIRST piece of the totally INTEGRATED dynamics, which I would like to deploy too.

Regards,
art

 

[art]

Art,

ThanK you for all of the information you have shared from your research.

I may have missed (in all the threads you have been a part of) some of the examples of highly visible tour players which utilize the "bumpy back, keep it back" technique. Do you have some players that come to mind (I do)?

Thanks in advance,

Lindsey

Dear Lindsey,

You probably missed a request of mine in answering one of your posts.

I would like to know the answer to your comment above "Do you have some players that come to mind (I do)?"

Who are they please, I am trying to do some planning for deploying the rest of this 'dynamic balance and stability' story to ANYONE that has shown an interest.

Regards,
art

 

[Lindsey Newman]

Hi Art,

Please do not misunderstand. I don't know of anyone using the specific BBKIP technique, but I have seen several players that appear to swing with some of the principles. One player whom I've played quite a bit of golf with - Rod Spittle on the senior tour, seems to employ some of the BBKIP technique. I asked the question in hopes of you sharing some "visible" players, possibly on one of the televised tours, who could show as an example.

I usually do well understanding written instruction, but visual demonstration is helpful.

Thanks as always

 

[DCgolf]

I agree with LN...I might suggest you get together with Brian or get his permission to post SOME kind of video on the motion you advocate. None of us wnat to do you or your peers any disservice by teaching a move we do not FULLY understand. And the text only goes so far in that regard. We need to SEE it. Thanks,