Shallow swing arc
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Brian Manzella
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Cool.
But the truth is NOWHERE NEAR.
But the truth is NOWHERE NEAR.
Hmmm...interesting. Could you expound on that please?
I know this is Brian's site but I have to bring in another instructors name here for my question. Jimmy Ballard says to spring the shaft is this what you are talking about?
dschultz6072
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I couldn't tell you. Some advice though...with the amount of conflicting theories abound on "the golf swing", it's best to find a local teacher who can help you and stop looking for information all over the place. Fight that urge to Google or YouTube golf tips. The shaft works differently than how you think, I'm certain.
Brian Manzella
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I think Mr. Ballard is fine with his "springing idea." I talked about that today in Australia.
BTW, as we go forward on BrianManzella.com, you can mention any instructor you'd like. I'll just call 'em like I see 'em. I have won many more times than lost.
...and I ain't a-scared.
BTW, as we go forward on BrianManzella.com, you can mention any instructor you'd like. I'll just call 'em like I see 'em. I have won many more times than lost.
...and I ain't a-scared.
Haha, that's the spirit! You gettin back to your old self? JJ
Erik_K
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He isn't saying that at all. Rather I think he's implying that the internet is full of conflicting information. You'll likely get more out of an hour lesson (or several) with a reputable instructor instead of watching (or reading) countless youtube videos or articles describing something as complex as the golf swing.
On some level there needs to be a feedback loop where the expert is interacting with the student to some degree. The teacher ID's the faults and then recommends a path forward. That sort of thing is extremely difficult do via a few vague posts or questions along the lines of "how do I hit it better?", "how do I shallow the swing?", "how do I spin my wedges?", "what is the tumble?"
When it comes to getting coaching in ANYTHING, you do this because the expert teachers are TIME SAVERS. Surfing the web for golf advice is akin to a trial and error approach that is extremely inefficient.
Find a good teacher, get some lessons, and work your ass off.
Erik
dschultz6072
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Maybe...yes SIR!!!
What good is a golf forum if I should not take the advice of the someone that knows ?
Brian is very knowlegeable and I read everthing he writes about the swing. Sometimes I might disagree but he is smarter than me so I read and try and absorb it.
I do face the fact that my body will only let me do certain things but I still try and it is fun trying. Disappointing yes but I keep going.
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Brian can you give me your idea of what " spinging the shaft" means. I have called the Ballard school and talked to the instructors but for
some reason it will not sink in.
Maybe your definiton will help.
Gotta disagree. You can only learn the real deal wih the golf swing studying the myriad if thoughts and deep insights of teachers on the internet. Without the internet, there's just no opportunity to get to touch base with the real deal, unless you're very lucky to be in the same community with that person. Internet just makes the golf instruction world a LOT smaller. You gotta study, truly, and choose very very wisely though.
Brian, I cannot sleep since your last post...
...apologies for pressing on this...are you saying I actually got it the exact opposite way? Meaning the DS plane, instead if being flatter compared to the BS plane, is actually steeper or, as I'm suspecting it now after your post, is inside the ball?To anyone else, has this been discussed before in this forum? Would love help to point me in the right direction/link.
Erik_K
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Hey if you are having fun, that's all that counts. I stand by my earlier statement. Posting rather vague questions and then receiving a rather vague response is akin to the blind leading the blind. If you want to get better; to seriously improve you need a LIVE lesson where the expert is looking at your swing, recommending fixes, swing thoughts, drills, etc and is monitoring your improvement. Without that taking place, it's is extremely difficult to get better at golf. You don't know if you are following Brian's (or any other other instructor's) advice...and neither does the instructor.
Yes, via the the internet SOME improvement is possible - say through a video submission of the swing with an analysis. That's not a bad compromise but still not as good as a real lesson IMO.
Erik
I gues I am wasting my time here than.
Without the internet we'd all be living in the dark ages of "I heard that guy up at Wannabe Lake is a great coach, so I'll drive up there and listen to what he has to say" world of delusion and hearsay. But with the internet comes the tinternet, so you gotta be careful. jerry has a valid argument about the limitations of the 1-1 golf lesson with guys who may be talking nonsense and the genuine chance of finding out something valuable on the net. I'd play both games if I was in his position.
How do you come to that conclusion from what I said? You've been around these forums enough to know good teaching from BS. Just the education you've gotten here should help you decide what to listen to and what to disregard. But very few have that insight. That's what you you can get here- the ability to separate the wheat for from the chaff. But no net info will ever take the place of good live teaching. I guarantee my students better ball flight-or their money back. I'd NEVER do that from a video. But I've said it many times, the best information on the Internet is at this site. Because its run by a guy who has done his time in the trenches way before he went into the research lab.
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