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tbarbertab
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Interesting thread...
My instructor is trying to get me to initiate the downswing by pushing off the inside of trail foot. Push towards the target, then rotate...
No good?
My instructor is trying to get me to initiate the downswing by pushing off the inside of trail foot. Push towards the target, then rotate...
No good?
bantamben2
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just get your left knee over your left foot.
What I'm trying to do is instantaneously transfer my balance to my left foot. It seems most golfers leave some weight on their right foot, so the balance point is in between the feet. Then the weight goes to the ball of the left foot, the spine angle straightens, giving a flat finish.bantamben2 said:
This might be the key I'm looking for. Leadbetter (his own swing) is an example of someone who has a clear separation between backswing ending and shifting his weight. I've been working on a half swing drill, where I commit to my left side immediately, and I've got some sore (left) leg and (left) back muscles to prove it.joeparr said:
ThomasTheTank
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What about Dunigan and Mel Ritsons ideas of pulling the club straight down from the top?
mrodock
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In some ways it isn't as simple as finding the ideal way to start down because there are all sorts of tendencies in the golf swing. If a person completely roundhouses with their left shoulder, simply concentrating on a little lateral movement of the lower body may never be enough to overcome the roundhousing tendency.
Matt
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You have to correct the intention, the image, the 'WHAT AM I POS'T TO DO?" for the golfer to make that or anything else right.
And what he's "pos't" to do is to keep his swing center steady, to move his left hip laterally IN ORDER TO MAKE his right shoulder move down plane instead of out; and he must intentionally prevent his right shoulder FROM moving closer to the wall built upon the target line. The shoulder is ONLY permitted to move DOWN, not out, at all. Either the golfer makes up his mind on these things and does them, or he doesn't care enough to do it right.
And what he's "pos't" to do is to keep his swing center steady, to move his left hip laterally IN ORDER TO MAKE his right shoulder move down plane instead of out; and he must intentionally prevent his right shoulder FROM moving closer to the wall built upon the target line. The shoulder is ONLY permitted to move DOWN, not out, at all. Either the golfer makes up his mind on these things and does them, or he doesn't care enough to do it right.
Another possibility?
Sorry if the vocabulary is inadequate, hope this makes some sense.
If you apply a downward force with the hands against the shaft the dynamic weight of the clubhead becomes heavier and remains behind the hands. This force down/out on the plane would cause the right wrist to feel as if it has bent back causing the right forearm to rotate forcing the right elbow downward toward and in front of the right hip. This action causes the right shoulder to move down which causes the left hip to slide forward (creating axis tilt) and begin to unwind. This chain reaction is due to the application of force on the clubshaft when it is out of alignment to the center of the hips.
So it seems you could try it either way. Body or hands.
Sorry if the vocabulary is inadequate, hope this makes some sense.
If you apply a downward force with the hands against the shaft the dynamic weight of the clubhead becomes heavier and remains behind the hands. This force down/out on the plane would cause the right wrist to feel as if it has bent back causing the right forearm to rotate forcing the right elbow downward toward and in front of the right hip. This action causes the right shoulder to move down which causes the left hip to slide forward (creating axis tilt) and begin to unwind. This chain reaction is due to the application of force on the clubshaft when it is out of alignment to the center of the hips.
So it seems you could try it either way. Body or hands.
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Went to the range again. Observations:
I realized that what I'm trying to do is mirror the action I use to throw a ball, step on the right foot, take the arm back, step on the left foot throw the ball(club). Not only is the foot work the same, but the same kind of relaxed arm action works as well.
My right leg has the strength to do this. My left does not quite yet.
It is a very compact leg action, with bent knees slightly turned in ala Hogan.
I feel like I force my hands through when I can't fully get to my left foot, my "educated hands" telling me to get them to the ball.
My legs feel much more active and athletic. They are also much more tired after hitting.
You can hit the ball a mile with very relaxed arms this way. I was hitting my six iron 205.
I realized that what I'm trying to do is mirror the action I use to throw a ball, step on the right foot, take the arm back, step on the left foot throw the ball(club). Not only is the foot work the same, but the same kind of relaxed arm action works as well.
My right leg has the strength to do this. My left does not quite yet.
It is a very compact leg action, with bent knees slightly turned in ala Hogan.
I feel like I force my hands through when I can't fully get to my left foot, my "educated hands" telling me to get them to the ball.
My legs feel much more active and athletic. They are also much more tired after hitting.
You can hit the ball a mile with very relaxed arms this way. I was hitting my six iron 205.
azgolfer said:Here is a quick view of the different starts. On the left is the "move everything together" swing. On the right is the right foot to left foot swing, with relaxed arms and a throwing motion. See a little difference in lag ?
AZ,
Don't you find that if the throwing motion is on a correct delivery path that it will take care of that shift for you?
To me, it's got to be solid on the left foot, then throw. And the throw is pretty much unconscious. In the swing on the left, I push the arms through to a good impact position without the correct leg work. I guess it depends on how you look at it. If "a throwing motion" means a solid weight transfer from right to left leg, then that's all it is.
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johngolf33
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Are you loading the Lag Pressure Point with the pivot in the swing on the right?
Some success...
Hit a lot of balls on the range today, really getting the feel of pressure transfer to the left foot at start of transition(/end of backswing). There was a marked improvement in quality of strike and consistent divot after ball, which is something that I usually struggle with.
I did pull quite a few well left though. It did feel that it triggered a flatter shoulder turn back to the ball (roundhousing?), killing any axis tilt. Is there something I need to make sure I do to stop this happening when I make the transfer?
Hit a lot of balls on the range today, really getting the feel of pressure transfer to the left foot at start of transition(/end of backswing). There was a marked improvement in quality of strike and consistent divot after ball, which is something that I usually struggle with.
I did pull quite a few well left though. It did feel that it triggered a flatter shoulder turn back to the ball (roundhousing?), killing any axis tilt. Is there something I need to make sure I do to stop this happening when I make the transfer?
Perfect Impact
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Make sure your right shoulder moves DOWN and not AROUND. The hip goes left but the right shoulder drops. Do this in front of a mirror without a club until it sinks in. And then with dry swings. Using golf balls early on before the new motions are second nature prevents learning: it contaminates the process.
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