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Mick Stup said:
Hit a lot of balls on the range today, really getting the feel of pressure transfer to the left foot at start of transition(/end of backswing). There was a marked improvement in quality of strike and consistent divot after ball, which is something that I usually struggle with.

I did pull quite a few well left though. It did feel that it triggered a flatter shoulder turn back to the ball (roundhousing?), killing any axis tilt. Is there something I need to make sure I do to stop this happening when I make the transfer?
I think if you get to the FRONT of your left foot, you will flatten out and pull it, unless you hold on with your arms. When you do it right, you will be using more spine tilt through the ball (more of a SIDEARM throwing motion). Also you have to resist the habit of pushing your arms through. It will feel like they aren't going to make it, but that is the lag.
 

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azgolfer said:
Here is a quick view of the different starts. On the left is the "move everything together" swing. On the right is the right foot to left foot swing, with relaxed arms and a throwing motion. See a little difference in lag ?
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the photo on the right has a more bent left wrist which allows more wrist cock and more "lag."

the photo on the left has a flatter left wrist which allows a wee bit less wrist cock and it's also a frame later in the downswing.

They really are similar in "lag." You can tell by how bent your right arm is.
 
Perfect Impact said:
Make sure your right shoulder moves DOWN and not AROUND. The hip goes left but the right shoulder drops. Do this in front of a mirror without a club until it sinks in. And then with dry swings. Using golf balls early on before the new motions are second nature prevents learning: it contaminates the process.

Thanks. It's not easy to resist that big bucket of balls looking up at you...;)
 
azgolfer said:
I think if you get to the FRONT of your left foot, you will flatten out and pull it, unless you hold on with your arms. When you do it right, you will be using more spine tilt through the ball (more of a SIDEARM throwing motion). Also you have to resist the habit of pushing your arms through. It will feel like they aren't going to make it, but that is the lag.

You're right, I was going to the FRONT(ish) of the left foot first. I thought you had to go FRONT then HEEL. Should I go direct to HEEL?
You're spot on with the feeling of the arms btw..
 
jim_0068 said:
the photo on the right has a more bent left wrist which allows more wrist cock and more "lag."

the photo on the left has a flatter left wrist which allows a wee bit less wrist cock and it's also a frame later in the downswing.

They really are similar in "lag." You can tell by how bent your right arm is.
I see the legs as being in the same position. The angle of the club is 20 degrees more on the right. Unfortunately, the next frame on the right is missing, but I doubt I lost that extra 20 degrees in the distance the hands need to drop to match the left pic.

The guy on the left here has good lag, I believe
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Mick Stup said:
You're right, I was going to the FRONT(ish) of the left foot first. I thought you had to go FRONT then HEEL. Should I go direct to HEEL?
You're spot on with the feeling of the arms btw..

denny1953 said:
Homer liked the weight to move toward heel of left foot. Picture a hammer throw

I'm not sure you can go straight to the heel, physically, but my thought is to get there as soon as possible. To me it looks like Ernie is on his heel before impact (when he straightens or "posts up" his leg).
 
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Perfect Impact said:
Make sure your right shoulder moves DOWN and not AROUND. The hip goes left but the right shoulder drops. Do this in front of a mirror without a club until it sinks in. And then with dry swings. Using golf balls early on before the new motions are second nature prevents learning: it contaminates the process.

For someone who has not done this and is in the learning process . . . what ball flight would you expect when the ball is introduced? Would you advise using a net?
 
Ball flight will be a result of whether you hit the ball pure or toe it, heel it, thin it, or fat it, or arrive with an open or closed clubface.

But if you DO develop this technique appropriately you will achieve low point after the ball, you will likely eliminate overthetop direction simply by moving your HANDS DIRECTLY DOWN TO AND THEN ALONG the target line.

Nets are fine except you get no feedback other than ball contact. I much prefer whiffle balls while learning, and then range work.

Ball flight becomes something you can control with skill - low, high, or working the ball. But that can wait. Just achieve good impact without the pulls and your confidence will soar.
 
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